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09/11/2012 at 10:55am
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Madz, It doesn't work like that.  If someone does voluntary work and needs to have a CRB check.   They cannot use that check for other work.  They still need a seperate check done. 

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09/11/2012 at 11:07am
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Kimmie, If your OH has applied to work for an Agency.  He will need to wait to see if he has been accepted .   If he is, then they will apply for the forms.  He will then need to fill these in, along with identification.  The Agency will fill in their bits on the form, photocopy his ID stuff, then send it off.  Once he has received his certificate, then he can start work.

Then your OH can work anywhere were the company sends him.   It will last for 12 months, 

It will be a waste of money doing it yourself.

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09/11/2012 at 11:11am
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It does make sense for each employer to do the CRB check.  Even if you showed them a certificate from elsewhere they would still have to contact the CRB agency to confirm that the certificate is genuine and that it is actually yours. 

My guess would be that the once the applicant's identity is confirmed the check itself would be an automated search of the relevant databases, so it would cost just as much to confirm the authenticity of an existing certificate as it would to generate a new one, because it would be the same process apart from searching a different database.

However, if you can show a prospective employer a valid CRB certificate when applying for a job they can be reasonably sure that you wont be rejected when they come to apply for one themselves.

 



09/11/2012 at 11:24am
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Quote: Originally posted by heath63 on 09/11/2012

Madz, It doesn't work like that.  If someone does voluntary work and needs to have a CRB check.   They cannot use that check for other work.  They still need a seperate check done. 

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Heath it does for some jobs.

 

 I know because thats what my husband has done, the company will start you on that enhanced CRB then do more checks later. This varies depending on companys and agencies. In my husbands field the companys expect the CRB to be done by him first. His Current work is something for a Government agency. He also holds his own disclosure Scotland although some companys expect a second disclosure Scotland.

 

He has worked some roles on his Scouting enhanced CRB and a disclosure Scotland.

 

A lot of agency roles expect you to go in with those documents in your hand plus a passport before they will consider paying out for another check. Some companys/ agencys just want the reassurance that you will pass.

 

Obviously its different if you are working with vunerable people rather than inanimate objects.

 



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09/11/2012 at 12:57pm
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seems to be differing rules.

OH wasn't allowed to use his socuting one with the little league or vice versa.

And DD has 3, one for guiding (no longer used) one for scouting and one for her teacher training. She also was told she couldn't use the exsisting ones when she applied for the later positions

 

Hence reason I thought you had to have a new one for each position?

Tho luckily we've not paid for any the organisation or the Uni has paid in each case.



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09/11/2012 at 12:57pm
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Maybe if that's the case it depends on the role,Madz

I work for a Nursing/Social Care Agency.  If a prospective employee has an in date CRB certificate, it will not be excepted.  Before anyone starts, a new CRB check needs to be done. With all upto date ID documents.  Still needs to be done, even if they already work in these settings eleswhere, ie a hospital, nursing home ect.

This will be exactly the same with any Agency in any part of the Country in this field.

Maybe some areas outside what I do, is not as stringent, hence the discrepancies.  That could be the reason for your husband was able to do the way he did it.

Or the only other thing is, Companies are not playing by the rules.  And cutting corners,  thinking it maybe fine for someone to start work straight away because they still have an in date certificate, and send off for new one.I have the feeling this maybe the case.

They may do this, but it does not mean it's  correct.  If you get my gist.

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09/11/2012 at 1:01pm
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I'm sure I was told that CRBs may change next year (although I think they have been saying this for a while now)and it will be possible to have one CRB (enhanced) that is portable.


09/11/2012 at 1:20pm
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Shelli

 I think Companies are cutting corners.   That is why majority of posts on here have stipulated that they have had to  apply for new CRB checks for different jobs.  

Those who didn't and work on existing CRBs while a new one is done. Those  Companies have cut corners and kept their fingers crossed. 

 

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09/11/2012 at 4:19pm
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This is the information on the Home Office website:

 

Accepting a previously-issued CRB check

 

Ultimately it is for the employer to determine whether to accept a previously-issued criminal record check.

 

However you should consider the following before making a decision:

 

The applicant's criminal record or other relevant information may have changed since its issue.

The decision made by a Chief Police Officer to disclose information on a CRB certificate was made based on the position for which the criminal record check was originally applied for. You cannot assume that no other intelligence would be disclosed for a different position.

The information revealed was based on the identity of the applicant, which was validated by another registered body, at the time that the original check was requested. Therefore, you should ensure that the identity details on the certificate match those of the applicant.

If you are contacted by another organisation about a previously issued criminal record check, any information disclosed can only be passed to individuals who need to see it as part of the recruitment decision.

You can only confirm whether or not the information provided is the same as on your copy of the CRB certificate.



09/11/2012 at 4:21pm
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This is the link to their website and FAQ section:

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/agencies-public-bodies/crb/contact/855591/

 



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09/11/2012 at 5:19pm
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I can't do links, but if you go to cqc.org.uk, this will give all the appropriate information. On CRB checks.

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