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18/1/2013 at 4:41pm
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It' is ( or was) actually illegal not to register pupils at the start of the pm session! Secondary schools that moved registration to the end of the day tended to do it to reduce afternoon truancy ( kids registering and clearing off) Many schools use electronic registration and the first lesson of the afternoon is used! Especially in case of fire alarm etc.
I would suggest that anyone with issues ask the school for their 'attendance policy' or whichever document that explains the procedures for dealing with absence - the whole issue is a difficult one with each local authority 'doing their own thing!' In addition with more and more academies it becomes even more complex because they can do what they like!!!
Just remember that a child with 80% attendance over 5 years has missed the equivalent of one year - 90% has missed half a year etc. They will be competing against there peers for college places etc
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18/1/2013 at 9:38pm
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Quote: Originally posted by ldpdmp on 18/1/2013
Seems odd to me - but I was only an oldfashioned Head. The 'free' time is study time - we had it when I 'were a lad'. At this age the majority of students can cope with some study time during a day, but not a full day. Looks like sloppy timetabling.
Sloppy timetabling is very apt.
His twin brother's Monday is almost as bad, scheduled for first period 8.45 - 9.45 then nothing till twilight lesson ( after school) So rather than fitting the lesson in somewhere else in the week he has to sit around all day. Oh and the head of sixth form and I almost came to blows when twin 1 couldn't attend 6th form open evening, as he was working. She told him his full time job should come first always. I could fill a book with my rants about this school, however the boys enjoy it there on the whole, which always helps. And they are achieving so cant really grumble. But boy do they go round things in a stupid way, all so the books balance :(
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19/1/2013 at 12:19am
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Probably employ a lot of part time staff so they do not have any real flexibility in timetabling. But parents never look at that when choosing the school/college. They tend to look at exam results and little else -unless they take into account of where the child's friends are going. It is a real shame for the youngsters concerned because post y11 is such an important time in a child's career
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Re the last posting, we have been really lucky that both our kids (19 and at uni and 15 doing GCSEs) have known what they want to do and how to do it.
Imagine a conversation at a pre-year 10 option evening. All the way through the evening the head/senior teachers are "its important to make the right choices", "looking to go to OUR 6th form", "this option will be good for OUR 6th form". When they asked for any questions a parent asks one and the conversation went something like:-
Parent.... You say that xyz is a good course (I think it was a BTEC) and will qualify as a grade for college entry. What if your child wants to go to a college that doesnt recognise them
Head..... But we do
Parent..... yes I know you do, but I think you should make it clear that all dont so parent perhaps need check
Head...... We do, so I cant see the issue
Parent..... OK then, what if your child wanted to go to ##### college. They dont.
Head ..... Sorry, I cant see the issue. We have an excellent college so i dont think that particular college is relevant for anybody
Me....Its relevant for my daughter. Thats where she wants to go
Head..... Im sure there are reasons she says that but have you looked it the benefits, (in derogatory voice), if any.
Parent....yes, our eldest went there for 2 years. Scored highly in her A levels, got extra AS levels and a bacaloriate (sp?). And it has far better staff and grades (at this point I was getting slightly miffed) and has a super student environment.
Head..... Well that obviously suited her
Parent.....Look, all I said was if the intention of this evening was to give students the right choices is to advise them of things to look into. You was the one who took it down this route. You could have just answered the original question.
Part of the problem in todays whole education system is whilst good parents are focussed 100% (OK, maybe high 90s but it makes a point) on their kids education, even good heads have to focus 50% of the time on results, tables and cash.
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19/1/2013 at 11:03am
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I think that the main problem is that the system does not ditinguish between, Jonny who has loads of absences through genuine health problems and related hospital appointments and Billy who since day one hasn't had to go to school if he didn't want to - same as his mum and her mum before. And for many teacher is must be a relief when certain pupils are off again, especially the disruptive one.
At the end of Year 8, Pip missed from January to July thanks to a major op. The school site was not wheelchair friendly as it is predominanlty on the upper floor with no lifts - and thanks to the nature of the brace in his leg he was not steady enough on crutches to go in with them. (A common problem when there was a heal ring.) What annoyed me is we were low priority and did not get home schooling - but had Pip been one of these disruptive pupils who was permanently absent without reason then we would have been given it straight away.
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I understand where you are coming from. However, it is possible to cope with youngsters with mobility problems like this - use of a library/study area with learning mentor support. My school was one with vertical corridors (STAIRS) and we had to work this way from time to time No problem if the will is there (or vision)
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Wish it had been that easy - the library is in constant use by other classes, and there are only three downstairs classrooms, other than the woodwork roon and another tech room. The rest are all upstairs. Loos downstairs, so even if Pip could have got upstairs, there would still have been the need to be able to get him downstairs. School is still almost the same as it was when it was built in the early 50s. Because of the lack of wheelchair access hosptial would not clear him to go back to school. Where as it was fun having him off for the first couple of weeks, it soon became less so when I had to take him with me, even to go to the local shop, for fear that he would have a fall when I was out.
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Quote: Originally posted by ldpdmp on 19/1/2013
Probably employ a lot of part time staff so they do not have any real flexibility in timetabling. But parents never look at that when choosing the school/college. They tend to look at exam results and little else -unless they take into account of where the child's friends are going. It is a real shame for the youngsters concerned because post y11 is such an important time in a child's career
Nope not many pt to my knowledge. It's just a combination of the subjects he's choosen, plus the fact the teachers also have to teach yrs 7 -11 as well.
The boys chose to go to the 6th form attached to their school, both did look at other but wanted this choice. One twin did apply and get offer two other places but prefered this one
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