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Quote: Originally posted by mummyintent on 05/3/2014

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Quote: Originally posted by macaw on 28/2/2014

Quote: Originally posted by janus on 28/2/2014

Quote: Originally posted by macaw on 28/2/2014Not sure if this has been mentioned?DVLA will get 2 months tax from one car if it's sold in the middle of a month as you can't get refund on part of a month and new owner would have to tax from 1st of month.

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So win win for DVLA

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Also, I am waiting for a new car, got the call last Friday to book in a delivery date, but still waiting for tax disc from lease company, so even though it's taxed, i can't drive it until the tax disc arrives at the car dealer.
New system means I could have had my new car last Saturday.

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I picked my new car up on 1st March, you can drive around (a new car) with no tax disc for 5 days. Even though I had the insurance docs and the dealer had all the registration docs and applied for the tax disc 2 weeks prior to the 1st March it was only issued on the 1st March. It arrived on the 4th March, you are within the law to drive your car before the tax disc arrives (as I did for 4 days)

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Quote: Originally posted by SGThomas on 05/3/2014

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AS I understand it, the tax is not related to engine size but by the degree of pollution it causes.

I have just changed from a 2 litre petrol engine ( road tax £ 290 ) to a modern 2 litre diesel car ( road tax £0)

As a matter of record short journeys and very low annual mileages are the most polluting

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Actually, that is not really the case in the grand scheme of things. Yes, short journeys mean the car will still be warming up and using a bit more fuel and putting out slightly higher pollution, but it will be tiny. But pollution is not just about what comes out the exhaust. A car doing high mileage will get through things like tyres, more oil, and a few other consumables and these have to be disposed of and delivered to be replaced. So when you add it all up, a car doing very high mileage is creating substantially more pollution than a car doing a few miles a year no matter what the difference in engine size.

I realise that car tax is not really car tax anymore but if it is going to be charged then it should be charged fairly. The way it works at the moment is that I could buy a car that has £0 VED and then modify that car substantially and it will still be £0. Those modifications could make that car pollute substantialy more than a car paying £400 VED.

The current tax on fuel is ridiculous with around 70% of it going to the government. But if there is going to be a system of 'car tax' then the only fair way of implementing it is by charging by the usage. If you have a lean car that has very good fuel figures then you will be rewarded as you will be using less fuel so pay less tax. The more you use it, the more you pay. If you have a thirsty car then you will be using more fuel and thus paying more tax. If you do not use that car a lot then you are rewarded by paying less.

It really is the only way to stop people avoiding paying VED. No matter what they put in place, there will always be ways around it. If you put that tax on the most crucial thing needed to run the car then their is no way to avoid it, forget it or give way to any reason to drive without VED.