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15/7/2014 at 10:40am
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You know what they say about the man who never made a mistake :- He never made anything!

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15/7/2014 at 11:20am
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I never make mistakes, only errors


15/7/2014 at 5:51pm
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To make a mistake is only human, but some mistakes have serious consequences. The caravanner made a simple mistake (WE ASSUME) but the resulting accident could have been very serious (thankfully it wasn’t).

One thing for certain, "IF" he made a mistake, I bet he doesn’t do that again. It MAY have been a mechanical failure, none of us know what happened so we shouldn’t judge the driver until we do.

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15/7/2014 at 7:42pm
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15/7/2014 at 8:33pm
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At the end of the day an accident has happened and the main thing is nobody has been killed or seriously injured. Cars and caravans can be repaired. I hope the person Injured soon makes a full recovery and that the caravaners can soon resume their holiday or reach home safely whichever the case may be.

Commiserations to all involved.

PS We can all make mistakes in a split second, no one is infallible.


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15/7/2014 at 9:52pm
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Quote: Originally posted by freeatlast on 14/7/2014
Roof lights don't just pop open, and had it been the firemen, don't you think they would have left the door open too? Looks like they did not hitch it up correctly either.

Glad nobody was hurt.





Really feel for them...our caravan came unhitched a couple of months ago...we have a routine, we checked and checked again...as far as we were concerned it was correctly hitched, just as it has been all those times previously and since when it's stayed attached...we still don't know what happened and what we did wrong.

And whatever you say, it is a more common occurrence than you would think. No-one sets out to make such a mistake...it's an accident and yes, I fully appreciate that it could have caused serious damage and / or injury. Luckily for us, all that was damaged was our own caravan, but it has made me very anxious whenever we tow.

I hope you remain so perfect.


16/7/2014 at 10:33am
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Quote: Originally posted by veema on 15/7/2014

I hope you remain so perfect.



Thanks for the sarcastic comment. Frankly I'm simply staggered by the number on here who seem to think it's OK to have these so called "accidents".

While none of us know what actually happened, the fact of the roof light being wide open and the caravan unhitched suggests a careless pack away.

It's not all that difficult to check that a caravan is correctly hitched. The little button on the top of the hitch is a good indicator. I do know the stabiliser hitch is sometimes very difficult to connect up,the friction pads impede correct hitching from time to time, but if in doubt I simply start again.

As it was there was one injury, it seems few are bothered that it could have been far worse. Imagine being hit in the face by that open roof light as it flies off as the caravan drives past. £120 out of pocket and drive blissfully on, while someone else has their life ruined.

Maybe the attitude on here explains why so many tow with badly loaded caravans, don't bother/see the need for such things as towing mirrors, or tow at a speed which is a danger to both themselves and other road users.





16/7/2014 at 11:04am
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Freeatlast - to quote Lauren Cooper - "Am I Bovvered though!??"

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16/7/2014 at 11:07am
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I don't think anyone thinks its okay...what I am saying is that with the best will in the world, accidents do happen and yes, I appreciate it could have very serious consequences.

I was totally mortified when our caravan came unhitched...it wasn't the damage to the van that bothered me, but the thought of what if it had happened on a busy road, or god forbid, the motorway...we could have killed someone. And yes, it is easy to make sure it's hitched correctly...we did all that, we were 100% sure it was right, or we wouldn't have set off...and the fact that we still don't know what went wrong, makes it all the more worrying whenever we now hitch up. I am not being blase about it at all, quite the opposite, but there is little point in belittling someone for an accident that has happened, especially when you do not know the circumstances. Yes, there are people who may be careless, yes there are people who drive too fast, but you do not know that this was the case with this accident, it certainly wasn't the case with our accident.

Have a bit of compassion for those who's caravan it is, because on top of feeling really flipping embarrassed that is has come off, they will be feeling absolutely terrible about the fact that someone has been injured...it may even put them off caravanning for life...but maybe you'll think that is a good thing.


16/7/2014 at 11:35am
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I was simply pointing out that as well as the caravan becoming unhitched the roof light was open, and it seems I am in the wrong for even mentioning it.

As I have pointed out none of us know what happened, though those two things together would suggest carelessness.

Yes I have compassion, however, my sympathy lies primarily with the other person who was hit by the caravan and their injuries.




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16/7/2014 at 12:03pm
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I know two wrongs don't make a right, but surely the caravan tower is only half to blame?
The injured driver of the Astra should take at least some of the responsibility, for driving around with his bonnet up!!


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16/7/2014 at 12:03pm
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Isn't the breakaway cable supposed to stop a caravan? The photo suggests a fairly slow road rather than a motorway where perhaps the speed could cause a breakaway cable to snap.


16/7/2014 at 12:19pm
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Yes where it happened 30mph would be top wack after the corner before and perhaps a lot lesss after having had to stop at the lights

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16/7/2014 at 2:49pm
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Quote: Originally posted by freeatlast on 16/7/2014
Quote: Originally posted by veema on 15/7/2014
I hope you remain so perfect.



Thanks for the sarcastic comment. Frankly I'm simply staggered by the number on here who seem to think it's OK to have these so called "accidents".

While none of us know what actually happened, the fact of the roof light being wide open and the caravan unhitched suggests a careless pack away.

It's not all that difficult to check that a caravan is correctly hitched. The little button on the top of the hitch is a good indicator. I do know the stabiliser hitch is sometimes very difficult to connect up,the friction pads impede correct hitching from time to time, but if in doubt I simply start again.

As it was there was one injury, it seems few are bothered that it could have been far worse. Imagine being hit in the face by that open roof light as it flies off as the caravan drives past. £120 out of pocket and drive blissfully on, while someone else has their life ruined.

Maybe the attitude on here explains why so many tow with badly loaded caravans, don't bother/see the need for such things as towing mirrors, or tow at a speed which is a danger to both themselves and other road users.







Problem is, most you are trying to preach "at" on here know these things, and some still have had these issues.

You don't know what happened in those situations same as you don't know from one picture posted here, so whilst like all, you are entitled to an opinion, we are all also entitled to ignore your sanctimonious postings and provide our own opinions on your opinions

I remember Veema was reticent to post on here originally about that and I thanked her for sharing it. Postings like yours don't encourage others to do the same or actually help


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Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 16/7/2014
I know two wrongs don't make a right, but surely the caravan tower is only half to blame?
The injured driver of the Astra should take at least some of the responsibility, for driving around with his bonnet up!!







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