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Subject Topic: Supermarket fuel quality
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20/8/2014 at 8:28pm
 Location: Stockton on Tees
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When we go to france, towing the caravan, I can't make to the tunnel (220 miles)on a full tank of diesel.Coming home using French fuel, loaded with wine. I can get home with a bit to spare.Or perhaps it's uphill travelling south and downhill travelling north! I use supermarket fuel in UK and France.


20/8/2014 at 9:10pm
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Sue999 stated on page 1 that diesel particulate filters are costly to regenerate.
!!!!!!!WRONG !!!!!
Get the car up to running temperature and drive it for a few miles, even better if you let the engine rev a bit


20/8/2014 at 10:08pm
 Location: Cornwall
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Quote: Originally posted by Andy Higham on 20/8/2014
Sue999 stated on page 1 that diesel particulate filters are costly to regenerate.
!!!!!!!WRONG !!!!!
Get the car up to running temperature and drive it for a few miles, even better if you let the engine rev a bit



I wish it was that easy on my car!

Nissan advised me not to turn the engine off while the warning light is on and to drive the vehicle at between 3-4000 revs continuously for approx. 15-20 mins (difficult when you live in Cornwall). They advised that if the engine is turned off with the warning light on it would need to come in the garage to be re-generated on their machines and then have the warning light turned off using their software at a total cost of £200. Revving the engine would do no good.

On one occasion I drove 30 miles at 3500 revs before the light went out on its own. God knows how much fuel and wear and tear on my car that cost.

On the occasion I had to turn the engine off( I had a meeting I had to attend) My cousin (a mechanic) was able to carry out the re-generation for £25 but was unable to turn off the warning light as he is unable to get hold of the Nissan software so I had to take it to Nissan and they charged me £30 to do it.

While the warning light was on I had no cruise control or 4x4 option and other things which I cant remember, so needed to get it cleared.

I have had the warning light come on 4 times since I have owned the car (1 year) fortunately I have been able to clear it prior to the engine being turned off all but the one occasion. Since then I have had superior oil put in it during its service and have used Esso/BP fuel only and for 3 months now all has been ok.

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20/8/2014 at 10:32pm
 Location: Leicestershire
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that's the beauty of the Honda ictdi, there is no DPF!


22/8/2014 at 1:51pm
 Location: Prestatyn Nr Wales
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The Largest Taxi firm in Prestatyn, Base is directly across the road from Tescos Petrol Station.

They all fill their cars there, both the Privately owned and Company owned cars.

Given that those cars are virtually never stationary during the Holiday Season, they must not have any issues with Tesco Fuel.

The Taxi Company actually has a Fleet Card with Tescos for it's owned vehicles.

Not something they would do, if the fuel was costing them, or creating issues at the end of the day. Because if the vehicle is not moving, it's loosing money, and that is something the Privately Owned vehicles Drivers, can't afford.

So I would say their usage of Tesco Fuel, is a testament to no issues with it.

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22/8/2014 at 2:24pm
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Fuel is produced to a set strict British standard, and they are not going to change these standards for different customers. different standards would give different emissions


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22/8/2014 at 8:29pm
 Location: NE England
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So it is all the same? That standard isn't just a minimum? If a fuel gave lower emmissions than the standard demanded the maker would be in breach?


22/8/2014 at 9:11pm
 Location: South Yorks
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Ok the business I work in has a fleet of 207 4x4 all of them use supermarket fuel only and on average clock up between 150,000 and 300,000 miles within 2 years. Not one engine failure. All are serviced on schedule. Now I am going to suggest with all those vehicles and mileage surely if supermarket fuel was that poor we would have seen the results by now over our 10 year period.


23/8/2014 at 10:24pm
 Location: NE England
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As far as I'm aware this applies to diesel - dunno about petrol but the way to maybe be looking it is that the supermarket fuel is fine but some engines run better & more reliably on the stuff with the extra additives - which is usually the branded stuff. Blame the engines.

X amount of cars running fine on supermarket stuff is only proving that x amount of cars don't have a problem with the stuff.


23/8/2014 at 11:21pm
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Quote: Originally posted by philz55 on 22/8/2014
Ok the business I work in has a fleet of 207 4x4 all of them use supermarket fuel only and on average clock up between 150,000 and 300,000 miles within 2 years. Not one engine failure. All are serviced on schedule. Now I am going to suggest with all those vehicles and mileage surely if supermarket fuel was that poor we would have seen the results by now over our 10 year period.



Surely all this says is that a company fleet - possibly changing their vehicles regularly - doesn't have a problem. That's not to say that individuals with far less resources and have to stick to an older vehicle/change less often are in the same position?

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