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18/8/2015 at 10:18am
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My BIL (not the first time I have spoken about his job) is being made redundant, along with all his fellow workers as the company is relocating. He was transferred to this company a few years ago with a few other workers in a buy out. The other workers have since left. Other worker have been taken on. He was told at christmas that he was the only employee on the 'old contract' and lower rate of pay than everyone else (any new workers were taken on at the higher rate)and would be given the same rate of pay. This, despite enquiries to his boss/HR has never happened. He beleives he should be due back pay and obviously it will affect the amount of redundancy pay he gets. He has spoken to HR again but as they are all leaving too noone seems bothered. All the men do identical jobs and it seems so unfair, he's a really good bloke. Is there anything he can do? Thank you for any help.
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18/8/2015 at 10:51am
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Apparently there were emails sent by his boss to HR about it which he is trying to get hard copies of. I appreciate that those were the terms they accepted on employment (either that or back on the dole, not much round here) but everyone already at the new company was already paid more and anyone taken on since has too. As you say it is morally wrong and if they said they would change it I think they should honour it. No unions involved I'm afraid.
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18/8/2015 at 11:38am
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T&Cs when one company is taken over by another are a minefield. I work for a large (5000+ employees) company that was created by combining two smaller organisations, both with their own T&Cs - that was over 10 years ago. There are effectively now THREE sets of T&Cs - the ones hung over from the original 2 companies, and a third 'harmonised' set - but the harmonised T&Cs haven't been adopted across the board, so those who are still in the same job they were doing 10 years ago are on different rates of pay, different annual leave entitlement, different sickness reporting and absence rules, to those who have been employed (or changed jobs) since! And this is a Union-controlled industry, so they don't make things easier. Get your BIL to speak to CAB - and good luck.
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18/8/2015 at 1:29pm
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The company has no obligation to pay more than statutory redundancy, if your BIL earns more than this /week (I think it is £380) there is no obligation for the company to pay more than this, this will also apply to the other workers who are on a higher rate of pay.
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18/8/2015 at 2:12pm
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I think you will find that equal pay legislation only applies to differing rates between men and women doing the same job. The question of his pay should have been discussed at any performance reviews.
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18/8/2015 at 4:23pm
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Its minimum wage practically, and certainly nothing like reviews, unfortunately!
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18/8/2015 at 9:24pm
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There is nothing to stop a firm taking on new people at different terms to existing staff. Where he might have a claim is where you say he has been told that he would be put on the same rate of pay as others. Can he "prove" this ? It would form part of his contract and he may be able to claim that the company are in breach of contract. However....if the company is going to the wall, will they really give a damn ?
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19/8/2015 at 9:33am
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Exactly MikeJ, he just feels that he has been strung along and let down in the end, especially as everyone else is paid more for identical work. Yes, ideally he could have left etc but regular work is hard to find and they did say they would increase his pay. I shall pass on everything and he'll take it from there. Thanks
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19/8/2015 at 3:59pm
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Looks like another good reason for being a member of a Union!
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