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Gram

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No!!
In almost all cases, programs are automatically installed onto the C drive, with important components and/or links installed in the Windows directory. If you move/transfer the program (or what you perceive to be the program directory) to another drive, necessary links/items/instruction cannot be accessed - and the program will not work.
There are special programs (such as AppMover) that will allow you to transfer programs and make all the necessary other changes, but programs are generally best left where they are installed.
However, everything created or downloaded by your programs (such as documents, pictures, videos, sounds etc) are better stored (using "Save as") on to your D drive - you can create seperate directories named "Documents", "Pictures", "Videos" etc as required to store each type accordingly - and it's easy enough to open the file you want in the appropriate program by just double-clicking on the file name...

(As to slow running - how many hidden programs are running on startup..?

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Quote: Originally posted by Gram on 19/2/2016
No!!
In almost all cases, programs are automatically installed onto the C drive, with important components and/or links installed in the Windows directory. If you move/transfer the program (or what you perceive to be the program directory) to another drive, necessary links/items/instruction cannot be accessed - and the program will not work.
There are special programs (such as AppMover) that will allow you to transfer programs and make all the necessary other changes, but programs are generally best left where they are installed.
However, everything created or downloaded by your programs (such as documents, pictures, videos, sounds etc) are better stored (using "Save as") on to your D drive - you can create seperate directories named "Documents", "Pictures", "Videos" etc as required to store each type accordingly - and it's easy enough to open the file you want in the appropriate program by just double-clicking on the file name...

(As to slow running - how many hidden programs are running on startup..? )

Gram

I seem to have 7 programs running on start up but I wouldn't know if any of those can be disabled. I know one is the smart pad and since I always use a mouse I assume that one could be disabled. I haven't got a clue what the others are...their description doesn't mean a thing to me.

What is troubling me is that the 'C' drive has a total available of 58.2 GB but there is only 23.1 GB of that remaining free. Whereas the 'D' drive has a massive 160 GB and only 1 GB has been used so there are 159 GB hanging around doing nothing..

That seems ass about face to me. Surely the larger drive should be the main drive?

I did discover that I could put the photo I transferred across to 'D' in my documents folder and that makes it a little more accessible.

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On my C drive, I have Windows 7 (operating system); DVD Profiler; Family Tree Maker; Filezilla; PaintShopPro; MS FrontPage; MS Money; MS Office (Word & Excel); Firefox; Thunderbird; scanner program & OCR Reader; PDF Editor; Skype; VLC video player and assorted anti-virus, anti-spyware, cleaning and maintenance programs, along with some other small but useful programs - these add up to 54 GB, so your 35 GB usage is relatively modest.
The point is that for (generally) best performance, all programs should be on your boot-up drive - which is almost invariably C drive - but other files should be stored on another drive.
By default, the "My Documents" folder is on your C drive, so "...puttting the photo I transferred across to 'D' in my documents folder..." has just put it back on to your C drive....
If you use "Save as" to a specific directory (on your D drive) rather than just "Save", you know where you've put it - and you know where to look for it to open as I described; as easy to find and open as if it were on your C drive!

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I am sorry but I am not quite getting it. If I download a photograph, for example, to my computer it will automatically go onto drive C where I can choose a folder to put it in, usually 'My Pictures'.

'My Pictures' is always accessible in a panel on the left hand side of any other folder I open, along with such things as Favourites, Desktop, Downloads, Recent Places etc.

I appreciate that at the time of download I could place it in a specific folder on my D drive instead but then where do I find that folder again other than opening the D drive and looking for it? If I create a shortcut to it and save that on my desktop, hasn't that put it back onto C again?

Also, once downloaded to a folder (My Pictures for instance) on the C drive, there doesn't seem to be any way of copying it or sending it to the D drive other than clicking and dragging.

Sorry...it's not difficult to confuse me with techy stuff - lol.

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I have not read all the posts above but have you done a clean up of your disc and cleared out all the junk and temporary files.
its amazing how much space you can save by doing it.
CCleaner is very good for this purpose and also to restrict what programs run in the background at start up.
Computer hanging ? have you opened the task manager(ctrl+alt+ delete) and clicked the performance tab to see how much memory is being used when your pages start to hang.
Then you can close each program in turn to see where your memory is being used the most.
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Quote: Originally posted by alpiner on 20/2/2016
I have not read all the posts above but have you done a clean up of your disc and cleared out all the junk and temporary files.
its amazing how much space you can save by doing it.
CCleaner is very good for this purpose and also to restrict what programs run in the background at start up.
Computer hanging ? have you opened the task manager(ctrl+alt+ delete) and clicked the performance tab to see how much memory is being used when your pages start to hang.
Then you can close each program in turn to see where your memory is being used the most.
ccleaner

Thanks for your help but I think it was Ccleaner that got me into this mess in the first place - lol.

Originally I was concerned (although more inquisitive) as to why my C drive seemed to be slowly but surely filling up even though I wasn't downloading anything except updates and things. My computer didn't seem as fast as it once was, and yes I often clean out all the rubbish including Temp files etc; do a Disc clean and defrag and all that stuff which does speed it up slightly for a very short while.

Sooo...on advice from people on these boards I downloaded Ccleaner and set it to do whatever it was supposed to do, after which it came up with a load of programs and seemed to be telling me they were rubbish and could be deleted...so I deleted them. It was after that I discovered Windows Live Essentials was missing which included my live mail.

I then re-downloaded just the email part of Windows Essentials as I don't think I need the other programs in it, and it was shortly after that I discovered some websites hanging for a minute or two before finally kicking in. When they hang the whole laptop freezes so all I can do is wait until it kicks in again.

I assumed that when Ccleaner deleted half my computer something important went with it that helped to open (some) websites. I spent ages updating Firefox, Flash, and everything else I thought might be causing it but nothing worked until I ditched Firefox and started using Chrome. Now I am not getting any more freezes.

My laptop isn't particularly fast but then I am bit hesitant to mess with it further. It is as fast as it has been for some time.

My thoughts were that if I could transfer lots of stuff to drive D, which is nearly empty, drive C would work like an express train.

I have now done some research online regarding transferring files and although it can be done I don't think I have that many transferable files that it will make much difference.

It would seem that everyone who has a partitioned Laptop ends up filling the C drive while the D drive remains relatively empty. It will probably take me years to fill it completely as it is only just over half full now and the laptop has to be about 8 years old! Little point in messing with it further.

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I agree if its not broke dont fix it, But if your laptop has a small removable panel on the back giving you access to the memory chips an increase in memory will give you a faster computer.
8 years old thats great, i have two laptiops an old one that i use all the time with W7, and a new one with W10, the W10 computer NEVER gets used.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice and help. I doubt I will ever get to the bottom of why it was hanging on certain websites but it now seems ok with Chrome.

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Bob, one way of getting to files on D drive is to open windows explorer, right click on the Drive and open a New Folder, name the file what you like,e.g. Word Files, then click off it.
Right click on your Desktop and select New-Shortcut.
Then from the nav box, look for your D Drive, select the folder you've just named "Word Files" and that folder will open automatically every time you click on it.
You can name the folder whatever you want and put photos or whatever you want. Save your Photos to D with the Save as command and Robert's your Mother's brother.

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Thank you for that Bridgelayer. I will have a go.

I managed to transfer the documents folder and it's contents to drive D by right clicking on it, then clicking on location, then on 'move'. The problem now is that I can't seem to be able to move it back to C again because a right click on it in D doesn't give a location tab.

However, it still appears in ' My Documents' on C and when I click on properties it shows it as being in the D drive so I guess that is ok.

It doesn't seem to have increased the volume in drive D or reduced the volume in Drive C so rather a pointless exercise really. I suppose you need to transfer really big files like videos and photos to make a difference and I don't keep many of those on my computer anyway.

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Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 13/2/2016
Just gave up on Windows 7 SP1 ....

Microsoft stopped supporting SP1 several years ago, they issued warnings for months. So it might just not be available. Try Vista instead, that's still running fine on my laptop with Windows 7.

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Quote: Originally posted by Fiona W on 29/2/2016

Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 13/2/2016Just gave up on Windows 7 SP1 ....

Microsoft stopped supporting SP1 several years ago, they issued warnings for months. So it might just not be available. Try Vista instead, that's still running fine on my laptop with Windows 7.

Forgive my IT ignorance but isn't Windows Vista a separate operating system which was replaced by Windows 7? According to Wikipedia, Microsoft stopped providing "mainstream support" for Windows Vista on 10th April 2012 and extended support will end on 11th April 2017. So you may well experience problems after then.

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A IT friend of mine linked c and d and doubled my storage space also installed vipre security on pc which sorts out some of your problems automaticaly it also lasts the lfe of you pc and laptop etc for one payment. I had the same problems with chrome not fox but since vipre updates all the latest versions of programs and deletes old the problem seems to have disappeared

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