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24/1/2017 at 6:50pm
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Walk into any public house and ask for tap water , they provide it free of charge , and a lovely girlie smile as she flexes her strong chest muscles and pulls it , mmmm , now cider is entirely a different matter , drunken farmers and country bumpkin oiks sup the stuff , and often you can't even see your birds face through the muck , though for some that is a bonus , not me of course , mine are all goddesses through the beer goggles of a fine pint of Yorkshire smooth , and cider usually costs an arm and a leg , often both if hit by a particularly large lorry , cue opensauce ....
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24/1/2017 at 7:14pm
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Quote: Originally posted by fran1000 on 24/1/2017
Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 22/1/2017
Don't forget also that apart from homeless people being entitled to help, they are also entitled to benefits. If they spend that wisely they shouldn't starve.
True, but £73.10 a week doesn't go far when you are dependent on take-aways and prepared food. Even a Sainsburys "meal deal" is £3 for a sandwich, drink and packet of crisps, although I suppose Greggs is pretty cheap. And they have to pay for drinks, too, even water. They should bring back public water fountains imo.
In a town near me, there is a shop that sells 500ml cans of strong cider for 68p. The cheapest bottle of water they sell is 75p. What a crazy world we live in where water is more expensive than booze ...
Fran,
I appreciate your job, and your concern for these people
on £73 a week.
Do you realise there are pensioners who have worked all their lives on less than that when you take away tax etc.
I quite appreciate your concern for these people, but who speaks up for the pensioners in worse conditions because they cannot get out and beg ,and wouldn't anyway.
I really sympathise with people who cannot cope with living in society for many reasons.
I do however get annoyed when people who have worked all their lives are treated worse than the people you represent.
Some have lived through terrible times and conditions.
Perhaps some of us should stop and give them a thought as well.
They don't care how much cider is, but they do care how much gas and electricity is, just to keep alive.
Regards ,
Greg
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25/1/2017 at 4:58pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Greg M on 24/1/2017
Fran,
I appreciate your job, and your concern for these people
on £73 a week.
Do you realise there are pensioners who have worked all their lives on less than that when you take away tax etc.
I quite appreciate your concern for these people, but who speaks up for the pensioners in worse conditions because they cannot get out and beg ,and wouldn't anyway.
I really sympathise with people who cannot cope with living in society for many reasons.
I do however get annoyed when people who have worked all their lives are treated worse than the people you represent.
Being just a few years from pension age myself, I am very aware of how difficult it is for pensioners to manage. However, the minimum someone of SRP age should be getting is £155.60 pw (if their SRP is below that, they're entitled to a top-up of pension credit to bring it up to that figure). That's more than double the amount that a single person below retirement age will get, despite the fact that their outgoings will be broadly similar.
There are other things that I think are more unfair to pensioners than basic benefit rates, like no mobility element in attendance allowance (like you should resign yourself to being housebound because you're over 65!) and not being entitled to carer's allowance if you're caring for someone else. But at least they're not affected by the bedroom tax!
And if someone over retirement age finds themselves homeless, the council (quite rightly) has a statutory duty to house them.
I also think that there should be a taper on private pensions, so that people who have saved for their old age don't end up just as badly off as those who haven't. There's no incentive to make private pension provision, unless you can afford to save so much you'll be comfortably off.
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25/1/2017 at 5:30pm
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I could live very well indeed on £73 a week if I didn't have to pay rent, council tax, electricity bill, gas bill, phone and internet, car tax, car insurance, fuel, MOT, income tax, water meter bill, not to mention feeding and clothing the wife...almost worth going homeless! 
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