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Personalison46
17/4/2017 at 6:58pm
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Has anyone had or got a Eco sport Ford car as it looks like a nice car.
I find a lot of cars when I move the driving seat forward as I have quite short legs that my knee hits the steering column and this car was ok. At the moment I drive a Zafira but want to down size,
Alison46


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17/4/2017 at 7:32pm
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We considered one, but I thought they were expensive for a jacked up Fiesta.

You don't say which engine, but there have been some problems with the early 1.0 Ecoboost engines. A failed water coolant pipe serving the turbo. Ford are aware and fix them so newer models should have been redesigned.

Clutch and flywheel problems also need to be looked out for either due to misuse or leaking fluid.


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17/4/2017 at 7:37pm
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thank you for your help daveyjp.
alison46


PersonOpensauce
18/4/2017 at 7:34am
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It looks nice enough if you don't have the optional spare wheel on rear door. Then you have no spare wheel of course so usual SUV design fail. Go for the well proven diesel unit rather than petrol & you will have cheapest possible fuel costs with best performance.


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18/4/2017 at 8:55am
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Are you still allowed to buy diesel cars in the U.K.? you will be treated as some sort of antisocial miscreant, surely, and taxed into oblivion.


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Not at all. Even with the new road tax regime for new registrations from this month the first year tax for diesel is cheaper than petrol version of same car. After that everybody pays £140pa if purchase price is under £40k. Then you have cheaper fuel cost due to better diesel mpg. What's not to like?

I bought my new diesel last month so still on £30pa road tax. Petrol version would have been £135pa.

1litre petrols with outputs up to 140bhp? They will be going bang like racing car engines.


Personminicamper2001
18/4/2017 at 9:41am
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Are you not concerned by all the threats of diesel cars being banned from loads of towns and cities? We can't take our VW van inside the M25 now, without paying the LEZ charge, and presumably the situation will only get worse, around the country. Can see us having to worry about Dover and Portsmouth following suit in the future, which would also cost us extra to take the van abroad.


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Theres an argument for all older cars to be scrapped. The average life of a car is 11yrs. Look around you. How many cars older than about 06reg do you see around? Mostly small cars that do lower mileages & cost less to fix. Anything larger becomes non viable at that age & will probably get scrapped at the next major repair bill. So the problem mainly fixes itself anyway.

A scrappage scheme is cost neutral because for every car scrapped it puts a new car either bought or leased on the road with vat being paid.

I agree that leaves owners of older campervans & motorhomes in a bit of a quandary. Sorry & all that but an early diesel T4 is an unreconstituted polluting diesel of the old skool & outside of owner's clubs you will find little sympathy I'm afraid.

The tirade against modern diesels is largely a red herring though. Euro6 is clean enough & there are too many diesels about & still being sold for much to change medium term.

I think a new diesel car is a particularly a good buy now for anybody like myself who tends to buy new does average 10k miles pa & keeps car for around 8-10yrs after which trade in value is negligible.

If a scrappage scheme then exists it could be an advantage to owners of 10yr old diesels & that will give a chance for the new breed of small turbo petrol engines to prove their reliability over high mileages & another 10yrs of development will improve them no end.

I simply do not see why I should spend many £1000s of my own money to become a test bed for an underdeveloped small & highly stressed turbo petrol engine that may well self destruct at some point when well proven diesel engines are available with better mpg figures than petrol.

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No idea which diesel is fitted to these, but if its a 1.6 PSA unit avoid, avoid and avoid again.


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18/4/2017 at 11:05am
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Dear oh dear Dave. After 90k trouble free miles with my last DV6 I've just gone & bought another with the newer improved DV6. The engine probably outnumbers all other small diesel engines on the roads of UK/Europe.

Yes the car mentioned in the op does have a version of the DV6 diesel but it difficult to avoid this engine as apart from PSA group it's fitted to Ford/Mini/Volvo/BMW etc.

As with all turbo diesels it needs the oil changing at correct interval & correct spec oil used. There are Berlingo courier vans with DV6 engines at over 300k miles with no major repairs.


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Persondaveyjp
18/4/2017 at 12:06pm
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A Berlingo Courier van will be doing many more miles than an average driver. This is exactly what diesels are for.

For the average driver diesels are becoming less and less the sensible choice. Latest petrol engines can do 40 mpg - even my 2.0 4x4 does this and I've bettered it on a run - and many can get into the 50s.



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