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15/4/2018 at 11:53pm
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I will have to check my front fog lights if I can remember where the switch is. I have had the car several years now and never used them.


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Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 16/4/2018
I will have to check my front fog lights if I can remember where the switch is. I have had the car several years now and never used them.



Says only "cars first used after March 2018 will have their daytime running lights and front fog lights inspected."




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Quote: Originally posted by Peridot on 16/4/2018
Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 16/4/2018
I will have to check my front fog lights if I can remember where the switch is. I have had the car several years now and never used them.



Says only "cars first used after March 2018 will have their daytime running lights and front fog lights inspected."


Aha...didn't read that bit, thanks.


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Quote: Originally posted by Peridot on 16/4/2018
Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 16/4/2018
I will have to check my front fog lights if I can remember where the switch is. I have had the car several years now and never used them.



Says only "cars first used after March 2018 will have their daytime running lights and front fog lights inspected."
F




If lights are fitted, they need to be working


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For me its not the fog lights working that should be tested but the ability of a lot of drivers to switch the bl00dy things back off again when they are not needed.


19/4/2018 at 10:04am
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Quote: Originally posted by ST1100 on 19/4/2018
For me its not the fog lights working that should be tested but the ability of a lot of drivers to switch the bl00dy things back off again when they are not needed.


How do folks leave them on? My car turns off the fog lights as soon as the main lights are turned off, and you have to switch the fog lights back on again manually!!


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Older cars don't do that, Darren. And then, there's those who put them on because it's a bit misty, or it's raining - grrrr!! You don't need the flipping things on if you can see the normal tail-lights of the other cars on the road. It's not rocket science.


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Supposed to include more checks on older diesels for DPF removal as well.


20/4/2018 at 6:38pm
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Today (20 April 2018) marks 1 month to go until the MOT changes come in on 20 May 2018.

I know most of you will be well prepared for the changes, and understand how they will work. However, there's been some misinterpretation in the media about how the new defect categories will work - particularly what will be classed as a dangerous defect.

So, I thought it would be helpful to give a bit more background on the defect categories – explaining what is and isn’t changing.

The legal requirements

For a vehicle to be driven on Great Britain’s roads there are 2 main legal safety requirements for the vehicle. It must be roadworthy and for most vehicles of a certain age, it must have a valid MOT. Whilst they're connected, they're not the same thing, and they both have to be met independently.

So, even if a vehicle is roadworthy, it may not necessarily have an MOT (it isn’t automatic – it needs to go to a garage and get one!). And similarly, just because a vehicle has an MOT, it doesn’t automatically mean it’s roadworthy. It may have a defect that has come about after the MOT.

I'd like to remind you that this won't be changing on 20 May 2018, vehicles will still need to meet these 2 requirements.

‘Major’ and ‘dangerous’ defects

Currently, a vehicle will either pass or fail its MOT. Testers can then mark defects they believe are dangerous, and make the vehicle owner aware.

From 20 May, the implementation of the new directive will pre-define what is considered as ‘dangerous’. Defects that are failure items but aren’t deemed as ‘dangerous’ will be called ‘major’ defects.

So, after 20 May, defects that are dangerous will be set out for you, and the new ‘major’ term introduced for all other failures.

What ‘dangerous’ defects will mean for motorists

Moving to pre-defined dangerous defects will bring consistency to what is recorded as dangerous. So, we’ve taken the opportunity to make the wording on the MOT failure documents clear in reminding motorists that driving a dangerous vehicle is illegal.

While the majority of your customers would never drive a dangerous vehicle until it’s made safe, we know not everyone will behave responsibly. And, while it isn’t your responsibility to try and physically stop them from driving the vehicle, it’s important you provide them with clear advice that they do have dangerous defects.

This all applies whether the vehicle has a current MOT or not. A dangerous vehicle should never be driven on the road.

An early MOT will still be sensible

Some people have interpreted the changes to mean that a vehicle shouldn’t be brought in for an MOT early. This isn’t true.

We’ll still encourage motorists to not leave their MOT until expiry, as leaving it late increases the risk of the vehicle being used without an MOT or being unroadworthy.

'Minor' defects and advisories

The other new category from 20 May is ‘minor’. This is where there’s a defect on the vehicle – but it isn’t serious enough for the vehicle to fail. Like the major and dangerous defects, they are also pre-defined for you.

And, like the current MOT test, we'll still have advisories. These are very similar to minor defects but rather than a component already being defective, they indicate a component will become defective soon.

Recording defects

We’ve also made changes to the online MOT testing service to try and make it simple for garages to record the new defect types after 20 May.

For most defect areas (for example tyre tread depth) the defect is considered as only one level of severity (major or dangerous). The tester will just pick that the defect is present, and the MOT testing service will automatically include the level (major or dangerous) in the result.

However, for some defect areas (for example, hydraulic brake fluid leaks) there might be defects at more than one level, based on the severity of the defect. Where that’s the case, the wording of the defect describes the difference between major or dangerous.

You should assess which set of words the defect on the vehicle best matches. Then, the MOT testing service will automatically include the level (major or dangerous) in the result.



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Well that's as clear as mud. I can see testers struggling to determine what 'set of words' the defect might match and just saying, 'Sod it...we'll just fail it'.

At my last MOT the tester warned me that there is some corrosion on the outer edge of the inside of the brake discs which may need renewing in due course, but since the pads still had about half wear to go it would be best to wait until the pads need changing and do the lot together. Since I only do about 6000 miles a year that could be a long time yet.

Now...is that minor, major, or dangerous?


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Quote: Originally posted by Scampi on 19/4/2018
Older cars don't do that, Darren. And then, there's those who put them on because it's a bit misty, or it's raining - grrrr!! You don't need the flipping things on if you can see the normal tail-lights of the other cars on the road. It's not rocket science.



You could be fined for driving with fog lights on when it's not foggy. Fog lights should only be used when visibility is less than 100 metres and must be switched off if visibility improves.



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Quote: Originally posted by Opensauce on 19/4/2018
Supposed to include more checks on older diesels for DPF removal as well.



Is that a Damp-Proof-Floor, Opensauce? If so my Volvo has one as it's never let a drop in!

Seriously though, My car was built long before DPFs started to be fitted, so at least I can never be accused of removing it.

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if you think the class 4 test is tuff, try decipher the new hgv testing manual. i got serious brain freeze


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I just left it half way through Steve.
Keep nipping back to look lol



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