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Yes, but was at a wedding in Surrey.

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Hi Bessie500, I was on a hiatus from here for a while, but I am back now, I no longer have a company car, and to be fair I am glad to see the back of it, the final nail in the coffin was when the firm decided that the insurance was only for UK, and we could no longer take our company cars outside of the UK, added to that the firm had gone down the road (pun intended) of replacing our cars every 4 months or 8k miles which ever came last, I was doing 2k business miles each month, also they decided we had to pay for any damage to the vehicles, like scuffs to the alloys, and paint scratches etc, after that news redundancy could not have come quick enough, one of the guys on our team was presented with a bill of £2000 for repairs to the company car he had, as part of his redundancy package, he of course told them to stick there bill were the sun don't shine, although I think they deducted it from his final package anyway.
The reason why I say the Tesla Model Y is the best car in the world, is because one day there will be no more fossil cars around, and by that time Tesla will reap the ten year advantage that they already have over other automakers anyway, and remember what I said about Tesla going to 48v for all the ancillary electrics, lights, window motors etc, straight away there is a 75% reduction in cable size required, and also battery tech will have advanced to the point were 500 miles range will be std.


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Our neighbour's son hascthe Tesla Y as a company car.He works for one of the electrical infrastructure companies.It's big, roomy and apparently goes well.
Personally no good for us, won't tow our caravan and as a petrolhead about as exciting as a domestic appliance!
I really don't like the fact that nearly everything is controlled through the giant screen. It looks like the designer threw an I pad at the dash! Obviously personal opinion.
I quite like the Polestar and Hyundai Ioniq 5 cars if I had to go EV.
At my age I doubt it.
To us, they are 2 expensive,heavy and the infrastructure is not there yet.

We bought a Hyundai Tucson hybrid, it tows well, has good economy too.It is well made and very quick if you want it to be!
No electric range issues as its self charging.Impressed with it so far.

I fancy the new Toyota Land Cruiser, yes dirty diesel or a Kia Sorento diesel if we changed in the future.
I have seen articles that there is battery tech in development that can achieve much higher range, if it becomes affordable great.
A few manufacturers are looking at hydrogen fuel cells too.
Ev sales are not as great as predicted. Our local MG place has loads of unsold EVs on his forecourt which have been there a while.

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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 11/4/2024
The reason why I say the Tesla Model Y is the best car in the world, is because one day there will be no more fossil cars around, and by that time Tesla will reap the ten year advantage that they already have over other automakers anyway, and remember what I said about Tesla going to 48v for all the ancillary electrics, lights, window motors etc, straight away there is a 75% reduction in cable size required, and also battery tech will have advanced to the point were 500 miles range will be std.



I think the days of no ICE cars are still quite a way off. I doubt I'll ever see them.

To be honest I can't see the point of going for 48 volt auxiliary electrics. 75% reduction in cable size? Really? What's the point? Smaller cable sizes in a motor vehicle will just make them more fragile and prone to damage by vibration. Then there is the question of it being non-standard. The only advantage I can see of going 48 volt is to the benefit of Tesla. Non-standard means that any electrical equipment you buy for the car, whether it be spares like lights, motors, or accessories, will have to come from Tesla. Doesn't sound good to me from the point of view of the driver.

As for battery tech, yes it might develop more, but to my way of thinking it hasn't really come all that far in the past 60 years, and given the law of diminishing returns...... Batteries are lighter it's true, but there is only so much electrical energy you can pack into a given space.


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Batteries are definitely better with the advent of Nicad and Lithium. I have a booster pack about 6×4×1 inch which will start a car up to 3 litres! Not tried it yet but it has a great light and can recharge phones etc.
The cabling in cars is greatly reduced as they use databus systems. I remember them coming in on aircraft when I was an RAF avionics tech. We had to learn how they worked.

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11/4/2024 at 10:50pm
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Quote: Originally posted by 664DaveS on 11/4/2024
Batteries are definitely better with the advent of Nicad and Lithium. I have a booster pack about 6×4×1 inch which will start a car up to 3 litres! Not tried it yet but it has a great light and can recharge phones etc.
The cabling in cars is greatly reduced as they use databus systems. I remember them coming in on aircraft when I was an RAF avionics tech. We had to learn how they worked.



Those battery packs are very good. They pack quite a punch, but they are designed to give out lots of power in a short burst, such as when starting an engine. Great for charging phones and for powering an LED light too, but they are the complete opposite of what is needed for a traction battery.

Canbus systems have reduced the cabling in cars already, so I can't see the point of reducing them still further by going over to 48 volt. Nobody else uses it so it greatly reduces the accessories and spares available. Even large commercial vehicles use 24 volt.


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Aircraft use 28v dc and 115v single phase and 200v three phase at 400Hz.
Some kit uses fibre optical cable.There is a large amount of cable in a large aircraft even using databus systems!

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12/4/2024 at 2:35pm
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Quote: Originally posted by 664DaveS on 12/4/2024
Aircraft use 28v dc and 115v single phase and 200v three phase at 400Hz.
Some kit uses fibre optical cable.There is a large amount of cable in a large aircraft even using databus systems!



Yes I would imagine there is! So much electronics and fly-by-wire systems.

All sorts of different voltages used on trains too, from 24 volt control circuits to 850 volt DC for heating and lighting. On electric trains usually derived from 25kv AC overhead lines.

12 volt and 24 volt seem to have been standardised in road vehicles though.


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How did a post on car insurance morph into a Tesla and battery appreciation post?

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Yes, I wonder how as well madasaman, but going back on topic, I am told insurance on any Tesla for private owners is eyewatering, so much so that I think Tesla now offer there own insurance, although that is probably sky high as well, I guess the majority of Tesla's that I see on the road are firms cars, not private motorists, I do see the odd ageing Tesla Model S, which I guess might be privately owned, would be interesting to know what insurance cost is on those older Tesla's, first released in UK 2014, it would also be interesting to know how the ten year old battery is holding out.
Of course Tesla have now dropped both the Model S & Model Y from the UK line up, so now only offer two models, Model 3 (E !) & Model Y for the UK.


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Quote: Originally posted by madasaman on 12/4/2024
How did a post on car insurance morph into a Tesla and battery appreciation post?



These things do seem to happen don't they?

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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 12/4/2024

Of course Tesla have now dropped both the Model S & Model Y from the UK line up, so now only offer two models, Model 3 (E !) & Model Y for the UK.




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My bad blueexpo97, typo on my part meant to have typed that Tesla has now dropped the Model S & Model X from the UK line up.



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