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Subject Topic: Galaxy - clutch/ flywheel maybe gearbox
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22/8/2012 at 3:00pm
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Well car went bang yesterday AA came and said it was the drive shaft.
Garage have just rang me to say its the clutch/ flywheel be the look and sound of it,but it maybe the gearbox as well!
Looks like Yorkshire well and truly cancelled.


22/8/2012 at 7:15pm
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If the drive shaft snaps thats all that happens, the AA guy will know what was wrong.

A new CV joint is all thats normally required, I have had one of mine go but lucky for me I heard the tell tale signs of a load clicking sound when turning a corner so got it changed before it went.

You could change it yourself get a complete one from a scrappy for around £40 take the wheel off undo the large nut in the centre then remove the cir-clip and disconnect the bottom ball joint and remove the break caliper, then pull the suspension outward and one end of the shaft should come out, then pull the shaft out of the gearbox, then fit new one in reverse order. making sure the inner joint clicks home



22/8/2012 at 8:19pm
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Is it an auto or manual ?

Need to be a bit more specific when you say "went bang".



22/8/2012 at 8:45pm
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It went with a clonking!
Garage say the drive shaft is ok and it's the clutch possibly the DMF gone.
They are hopefully changing it as we speak,fingers crossed its not the gearbox too which he says is possible.
Will get a phone call in the morning either way.
Cheers Martin.


23/8/2012 at 1:49am
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If its the 1.9 tdi and the DMF has gone, you can get it converted to a single system for less than half the cost of a DMF 

Mine cost £340 fitted at the dealers.

If its the gearbox this is the best place

VEE-DUBS LTD in Newcastle Upon Tyne

Address Unit 10, Bill Quay Industrial Estate, Pelaw,
Neighbourhood Newcastle Upon Tyne
City Newcastle Upon Tyne
Province Tyne, and, Wear
PC NE10 0UR
Telephone number Telephone number ::  VEE-DUBS LTD
Categories Car Parts


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23/8/2012 at 7:47am
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Thanks


23/8/2012 at 11:59am
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Quote: Originally posted by Skoda Bob on 22/8/2012

If the drive shaft snaps thats all that happens, the AA guy will know what was wrong.





don't count on it, the RAC have twice not been able to diagnose simple issues with my car, once was clogged, but not blocked fuel filter, other was a blocked fuel line in the tank.
Because their computer would not talk to my car, they couldn't help at the roadside, even though I had a pretty good idea what the problem was (although the blocked fuel line took a bit more finding)
Their recovery from both was fine (well, except that the first time he flat towed me on a bar, which I have since found out he should not have done because my car is too heavy for that (sedona) second he towed my caravan to the site, and I drove the car solo.


28/8/2012 at 7:49pm
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It was some part of drive shaft gone ford only part replacement!all done last week at a cost of £284......
Then yesterday the DMF is making a terrible rackethas and is about to give up he ghost £700 bill to follow!
If the car was all payed up I think I would look for something else..


28/8/2012 at 9:24pm
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Quote: Originally posted by martindoggy on 28/8/2012
It was some part of drive shaft gone ford only part replacement!all done last week at a cost of £284......
Then yesterday the DMF is making a terrible rackethas and is about to give up he ghost £700 bill to follow!
If the car was all payed up I think I would look for something else..

Assumng its the older shape Galaxy/Sharan/Alhambra then the infamous intermediate drive shaft, apparently only Ford/Vw part which is massively underengineered (unusual for VW), however for those in the know a redesigned part is available from a firm in Poland which is very much more up to the job and half the price of the dealer parts. The drive shafts are a weakness and it is usually the CV joints that go, with the tell tale clunk on take up or steering vibration on acceleration, usually its the drivers side that goes first. Waste of time replacing the cv joint as whole shafts are available from motor factors for only a fraction more and you could save time on the labour, i have just paid £61 plus vat for a new shaft for mine, any mechanic can do it in a hour tops with a ramp, two hours on your drive.

It is possible it could have taken out the DMF but there are other things to check as well, it is known for a small bolt on the input shaft of the gear box to come loose, and if it comes off the whole bolt connecting the input shaft to the gearbox disappears, if your luck you can fish it out by draining the gearbox oil. Also the selector cables are known to stick and can be freed with a bit of lube.

Before anyone goes taking the box off to change the DMF and clutch check all these first as they are known faults, however £700 for a clutch and DMF is good, I paid £1300 two years ago.

Before anyone has a pop at Ford, remember the older shape Galaxy Diesel is all VW apart from the Blue badges and Radio, the main chink in its armour is the 6 speed gearbox and drivetrain as it is with all VW group TDI's, which is awful (and this comes from my crew mates son who is a VW specialist mechanic), still at least I get mates rates :)

There is a wealth of information here

Jon



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28/8/2012 at 9:31pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Skoda Bob on 22/8/2012

If the drive shaft snaps thats all that happens, the AA guy will know what was wrong.

A new CV joint is all thats normally required, I have had one of mine go but lucky for me I heard the tell tale signs of a load clicking sound when turning a corner so got it changed before it went.

You could change it yourself get a complete one from a scrappy for around £40 take the wheel off undo the large nut in the centre then remove the cir-clip and disconnect the bottom ball joint and remove the break caliper, then pull the suspension outward and one end of the shaft should come out, then pull the shaft out of the gearbox, then fit new one in reverse order. making sure the inner joint clicks home


Its actually much simpler than this on the galaxy Bob, Undo the centre hub nut (bigggg spanner and lots of torque/brute force), undo the 6 bolts connecting the shaft to the intermediate bearing, undo the two allen bolts securing ball joint to front hub (no need to split the ball joint) give it wiggle and off it comes. Replace CV joint on your work bench-much easier or replace complete shaft (cheap enough) reverse to put back on, with a new centre hub bolt as its a strech bolt.

Jon


 



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30/8/2012 at 11:00am
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Quote: Originally posted by jonbob71 on 28/8/2012
Quote: Originally posted by martindoggy on 28/8/2012
It was some part of drive shaft gone ford only part replacement!all done last week at a cost of £284......
Then yesterday the DMF is making a terrible rackethas and is about to give up he ghost £700 bill to follow!
If the car was all payed up I think I would look for something else..

Assumng its the older shape Galaxy/Sharan/Alhambra then the infamous intermediate drive shaft, apparently only Ford/Vw part which is massively underengineered (unusual for VW), however for those in the know a redesigned part is available from a firm in Poland which is very much more up to the job and half the price of the dealer parts. The drive shafts are a weakness and it is usually the CV joints that go, with the tell tale clunk on take up or steering vibration on acceleration, usually its the drivers side that goes first. Waste of time replacing the cv joint as whole shafts are available from motor factors for only a fraction more and you could save time on the labour, i have just paid £61 plus vat for a new shaft for mine, any mechanic can do it in a hour tops with a ramp, two hours on your drive.

It is possible it could have taken out the DMF but there are other things to check as well, it is known for a small bolt on the input shaft of the gear box to come loose, and if it comes off the whole bolt connecting the input shaft to the gearbox disappears, if your luck you can fish it out by draining the gearbox oil. Also the selector cables are known to stick and can be freed with a bit of lube.

Before anyone goes taking the box off to change the DMF and clutch check all these first as they are known faults, however £700 for a clutch and DMF is good, I paid £1300 two years ago.

Before anyone has a pop at Ford, remember the older shape Galaxy Diesel is all VW apart from the Blue badges and Radio, the main chink in its armour is the 6 speed gearbox and drivetrain as it is with all VW group TDI's, which is awful (and this comes from my crew mates son who is a VW specialist mechanic), still at least I get mates rates :)

There is a wealth of information here

Jon




Many thanks I think under £700 seems good was told to try The clutch specialists they quoted £400 for clutch and £1000 with Dmf.
The local guy at the garage is very good with the bills
Martin


30/8/2012 at 11:34am
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Martin read my post regarding the single system its much cheaper


30/8/2012 at 11:47am
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Garage guy says its not available he's enquired for me.
And also I've read it may cause problems with the gearbox ( being harsh)?
Cheers


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If you look on ebay you will probably find solid flywheel kit for Galaxy, well known oe maker Valeo make them, I think. If you do some googling you will find some have complained about excess vibration on Galaxy conversion. I can understand a Garage being reluctant fit non standard standard parts as well. The dmf is there to smooth things out so one could expect a solid conversion to vibrate more, the solid conversions seem to suit some cars more than others.

ebay solid flywheel kit


30/8/2012 at 7:09pm
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i had one fitted to my skoda octavia, (single mass flywheel ) and it was a different car cost me just over £300.00 no vibration what so ever.

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30/8/2012 at 7:46pm
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