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Personstuarts2
23/8/2012 at 7:26pm
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Would X Type 2.0d estate,be a good match with Elddis Oddessey 525..


Personneil and lena
23/8/2012 at 8:26pm
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X type 2.0d estate max towing weight 1500kg
Elddis Odyssey MPTLM 1575kg

so not a good match


PersonGrampian91
23/8/2012 at 11:37pm
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4x4 or people carrier sized vehicle will be needed.

The jaguars max tow is only 1500kg.


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24/8/2012 at 9:16am
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No reply from the OP


PersonFiremaster
24/8/2012 at 9:24am
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PersonGrampian91
24/8/2012 at 1:43pm
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Quote: Originally posted by neil and lena on 24/8/2012
No reply from the OP


Lets just hope the response is not O'S****.

We already bought the car and van...


Personstuarts2
24/8/2012 at 4:35pm
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What if I only load the caravan up to a max of 1500kg would this be ok ?


Personneil and lena
24/8/2012 at 6:02pm
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Quote: Originally posted by stuarts2 on 24/8/2012
What if I only load the caravan up to a max of 1500kg would this be ok ?


Why did you not check your cars towing capabilities before buying an unsuitable caravan ?
In answer to your first question if you keep below 1.5 tons yes it would be legal providing you passed your test pre 97
or have the necessary B+E entitlement on your licence .
You would be well advised to weigh your van on a weighbridge when partially loaded to make sure your its not above 1.5 tons the legal limit your car can tow.
Do not just assume that that the few items you put in your van won't take it close to your cars limit as things like motormovers if you have one fitted weigh close on 35kg and a leisure battery will weigh anywhere between 18-25kg .
I would weigh you van empty and again when partially loaded if want to keep within the law or alternatively by a heavier more suitable vehicle that has max towing weight above your caravans 1575kg


Personstuarts2
24/8/2012 at 6:37pm
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Thanks for that,I have weighed the caravan when loaded and ready for going away for 2 weeks hols 1485kg...The Caravan spare wheel in car plus awning and all our clothes..Car fully loaded and the caravan is near enough  empty.. And no motor mover fitted..


Personneil and lena
24/8/2012 at 6:52pm
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Quote: Originally posted by stuarts2 on 24/8/2012
Thanks for that,I have weighed the caravan when loaded and ready for going away for 2 weeks hols 1485kg...The Caravan spare wheel in car plus awning and all our clothes..Car fully loaded and the caravan is near enough  empty.. And no motor mover fitted..


I take you passed your test before 1997 allowing you to drive a car and caravan combination above 3500kg ?
If your unsure the way to calculate this is to add the MPTLM of your van 1575kg and your cars max loaded weight together if above 3500kg you must have the necessary entitlement on you licence .


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Personlisterdiesel
25/8/2012 at 8:10am
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Have you checked that the car will still be allowed to pull 1500kg when fully loaded?

I know that our Discovery isn't allowed its full 3500kg rating if it has a full load of passengers etc.

Peter


Personstuarts2
25/8/2012 at 10:06am
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Quote: Originally posted by neil and lena on 24/8/2012
Quote: Originally posted by stuarts2 on 24/8/2012
Thanks for that,I have weighed the caravan when loaded and ready for going away for 2 weeks hols 1485kg...The Caravan spare wheel in car plus awning and all our clothes..Car fully loaded and the caravan is near enough  empty.. And no motor mover fitted..



I take you passed your test before 1997 allowing you to drive a car and caravan combination above 3500kg ?
If your unsure the way to calculate this is to add the MPTLM of your van 1575kg and your cars max loaded weight together if above 3500kg you must have the necessary entitlement on you licence .

I'm a HGV  driver so hold the relevant driving license..


Personstuarts2
25/8/2012 at 10:07am
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Quote: Originally posted by listerdiesel on 25/8/2012
Have you checked that the car will still be allowed to pull 1500kg when fully loaded?

I know that our Discovery isn't allowed its full 3500kg rating if it has a full load of passengers etc.

Peter
 Will this be the Gross train weight the car is allowed ??


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25/8/2012 at 3:45pm
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No, the GTW is the maximum all-up train weight of car and trailer/caravan.

In the Discovery handbook it states that for towing at the maximum weights, only the driver and one passenger is allowed on coil-sprung vehicles, more on air-suspension (self-levelling) models.

Just thinking about what you said you were going to load in the car to keep the 'van below the max weight.

Peter


Personstuarts2
25/8/2012 at 4:27pm
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Ah right..There is only two of us so can't see it being a problem,

But I will check the handbook tonight and make sure things are ok..

Thanks


PersonGrampian91
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Personally i think the gross plated weight is the legal weight. As i wanted to rent a trailer and they wouldnt let me collect it with a big rover with a 1500kg towing weight.
Even though the trailer weighed much less unladen.

I had to come home and collect the 4x4 to collect it.

But i have not seen anything on the gov websites to prove either way.

And if your an HGV driver i am surprised your going to take the risk.



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