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21/9/2013 at 10:53pm
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Got the shock of my life today. I have just purchased a new tyre for the caravan because I notice small cracks starting to form on the side of the tread where it joins the sidewall. The new tyre was a higher rating  load index 99 (old tyre was 96) so I decided to fit it on the kitchen side of the caravan as that side carries slightly move weight.
 
I always check my tyres regularly before each trip, but could not believe the condition of the tyre when I took if off. When on the van it looked ok. I have learnt a very valuable lesson today, when checking tyres you really do need to remove them as you never know whets lurking in the places you cant see.
 
This does put a question mark over what condition the tyre was in when the dealer supposedly checked it 6 months ago and replaced a valve. I have done 1250 miles since that was done, so must have been pretty worn when they checked it, and at the least you would have thought they would have said you might need a tyre soon.
 
If you have a look at my gallery picture and all will become clearer.


21/9/2013 at 11:15pm
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With the wear on the edges, it looks like they have been run seriously under-inflated

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21/9/2013 at 11:40pm
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Is it legal to have two tyres with different load ratings on the same axle?

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For a licence dated 1997 or later you must add together the plated max weight of the caravan and trailer, if the total is 3500 or less you can tow it. You may even tow a caravan with a MAM greater than the cars unladen mass the restriction was removed in 2013

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21/9/2013 at 11:41pm
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Hi

The tyre I replaced was worn on the inside as well, I alway inflate my tyres to 42PSI as per the hand book and on the disc at the side of the caravan door. Its strange the wear is on the inside on both tyres.

 

 



21/9/2013 at 11:44pm
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Hi Bill

Dont see why not, as long as the tyres are the same size. But that will not matter now as I need another tyre so will have 2 brand new identical tyres. maybe a good thing.

 

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22/9/2013 at 12:12am
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I must admit, I did wonder the other day when you said replacing only 1 side.

Van be better with both sides the same.
40 PSI does sound low, what MTPLM is the van?

Trolley jack, axle stands and a bright LED inspection light, best way to have a poke around underneath.

Glad you're all sorted now.

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22/9/2013 at 12:31am
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Hi,

1365 kg

42 psi,

Was only doing one because it had hairline cracks and it was an original tyre. (6 years old) the other has been replace by the previous owner. I'm so glad I didn't just put it back on the side it came off.

Do.all caravan tyre wear on the inside.


22/9/2013 at 12:38am
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I replace my tyres meticulously after 5 years, i have seen the damage they can do if they blow out. I have never seen any wear at all on the tyres I have replaced, though several were damaged internally with large bubbles appearing.

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For a licence dated 1997 or later you must add together the plated max weight of the caravan and trailer, if the total is 3500 or less you can tow it. You may even tow a caravan with a MAM greater than the cars unladen mass the restriction was removed in 2013

Mondeo Titanium 140 tdci


22/9/2013 at 12:43am
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The issue could be your tyre gauge. 3 - 5 psi below the actual pressure shown is not uncommon.

So you maybe running as low as 37PSI. Possibly worse if your gauge is crap.

Add 3 - 5 psi. Looking at your tyres i would go for the extra 5 psi right away.

After towing 500 miles or so get an accurate tyre measuring gauge and check the depth across the width.

If both edges are wearing lower than add another 2psi.



22/9/2013 at 1:01am
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Agree completely. Also, our Sainsburys beep beep beep thing is 3 PSI out when going for 30 PSI for the car; suspect its many more out at higher pressures. Why its best to use your own quality gauge I suspect. Mine is a carry over from motor racing days. The apprentices in the tool room keep it calibrated.

Wonder how many others fall foul of supermarket beeps where there is no gauge?

Post last edited on 22/09/2013 01:07:31

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22/9/2013 at 7:22am
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Hi,

I use a ring compressor, and I also have a digital tyre pressure gauge. Which are both accurate. Possibly most of the wear was before I got the caravan.

Come Monday it will have 2 brand new tyre so I will be able to keep a thorough check on things, especially as I know now there is an issue with internal edge wear.

Could it be the way the wheels are offset. If that was a car you would get your tracking done. But never heard of that on a caravan.

Iain


22/9/2013 at 7:54am
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Hi
Ment to say on my new tyre it had a higher max psi that the old tyre and can be inflated to 56 psi. Strangely the old tyre had a max psi of 42 psi, bang on what the pressure should be, so no room for a.y adjustments
The tyre place said that my new tyre is a commercial tyre with much stronger sidewalls and a square shaped tyre which will gives the tyre more ground contact

This should therefore allow to up the pressure by a few psi.


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Perhaps you are setting the pressure correctly but the previous owner was running them at a lower pressure? The wear was missed by the dealer at service so perhaps it was missed previously? You may have had worn tyres when you bought the caravan.

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22/9/2013 at 8:22am
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Hi,

Yes but there again the dearer said they replaced a valve, which he did and I have only covered 1250miles since that was done.

Anyway, come tomorrow it will have 2 brand new tyres, and I have learned a valuable lesson. You really need to remove a tyre to do a thorough check.

That was ment to be the main point of my post.

Iain


22/9/2013 at 9:17am
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Quote: Originally posted by iain.morrison3 on 22/9/2013
Hi
Ment to say on my new tyre it had a higher max psi that the old tyre and can be inflated to 56 psi. Strangely the old tyre had a max psi of 42 psi, bang on what the pressure should be, so no room for a.y adjustments
The tyre place said that my new tyre is a commercial tyre with much stronger sidewalls and a square shaped tyre which will gives the tyre more ground contact

This should therefore allow to up the pressure by a few psi.



Excellent, be better all round then. Fresh start, with what sound like properly specific tyres inflated to the correct pressure, bet you never have issues again.

Previous owner was probably a friend of Kermit the frog...

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2002 Ford Galaxy - Died & scrapped. Good riddance.
1998 BMW 525TDS SE - PEx
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23/9/2013 at 9:04am
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Hi
On the subject of new tyres I am in the process of getting quotes for new tyres for my Bailey senator and they are between £75.00 and £110.00
Does this seem expensive to you guys as I have never bought caravan tyres.



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