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AL53HX

10/1/2014 at 4:10pm
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As the world is turning more and more to green power,I was wondering how these hybrid cars will fare as towing vehicles,as you all know,caravans come in all weights and sizes,I have a 4x4 to tow my 'van,what size hybrid is needed to pull a 1500/1700kilo 'van.
Any thoughts at all?

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Most hybrids only run electric for pulling away or slow speeds around town. You might end up maneuvering you caravan onto a pitch using electric but the rest of the time will be powered by good old fashioned internal combustion.

As even modern batteries have a fair amount of weight I'd say hybrids should make good tow vehicles.

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I was reading some where that the batteries need changed every 5/6 years or maybe 7 years at a cost around £3000 to £5000.Give me a good old fashioned diesel anyday.

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To answer the op question the Lexus RX450 4x4 hybrid has a 2tonne max tow with almost 300bhp, but I would imagine diesel powered 4x4s will be with us for at least the lifetime of anybody posting on this forum.

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If electric is to be the answer for future vehicles I think we are still a long way off for anything other than city cars and even then battery replacement only really makes them a viable option for the congestion charge free charge.

Viable electric long distance tow cars are further away than pay to fly space travel for everyday punters.

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My take on this:
If the hybrid technology was well suited to traction duties like towing then we would have hybrid lorries. For anything other than niche applications you will struggle to find them, let alone mass adoption.
They have a role but one paying a high cost for low health risk emission and with it achieving acceptability in cities etc.
If your main use is in areas where the low emission brings benefits [taxes charges etc] then for a small amount of towing its heavier fuel consumption could be tolerable.

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A friend has a Nissan Leaf, he came to vsit at Christmas and had to make a 42 mile round trip from my house to Milton Keynes to find a working rapid charger.

A more pointless product I cannot imagine

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At the moment, for UK buyers there is no economic reason for buying a hybrid or electric car. For those of us who choose our cars in the same way as we choose any other household/garden appliance we would never waste our money on such a car.

But neither would we waste our money on 'lifestyle' type cars like Mini/Fiat500 variants or more expensive BMW/Merc that offer no more in terms of performance/build quality/longevity than cheaper cars.

Those who base their car buying on reasons other than simple cost/use calculations might consider a hybrid in the same way one might consider a Mini Countryman when there are other cars that offer more space/performance for much less cost.

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On a recent Top Gear where the Nissan Leaf was featured, it was said that if the extra-rapid charging facility was used on most occasions then the battery life could be reduced to as little as three years. It was said that Nissan have these rapid charge facilities at most dealerships.
Electric vehicles may suit people who have a very regular commuting pattern day to day but apart from that you will probably have issues with their use.

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Nearest rapid point to me is about 20 miles one way. 40 mins each way pus 30 min charge. all but 2 hours!

If these things are so useless why are we all paying to subsidise them?

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Government needs to be seen doing their bit to avoid global warming

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Quote: Originally posted by millermicm on 11/1/2014
Nearest rapid point to me is about 20 miles one way. 40 mins each way pus 30 min charge. all but 2 hours!

If these things are so useless why are we all paying to subsidise them?

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Where are the Hydrogen powered cars then?

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Quote: Originally posted by geoff+emmy on 11/1/2014
Where are the Hydrogen powered cars then?

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Quote: Originally posted by Jack+Jon on 11/1/2014
At the moment, for UK buyers there is no economic reason for buying a hybrid or electric car. For those of us who choose our cars in the same way as we choose any other household/garden appliance we would never waste our money on such a car.

But neither would we waste our money on 'lifestyle' type cars like Mini/Fiat500 variants or more expensive BMW/Merc that offer no more in terms of performance/build quality/longevity than cheaper cars.

Those who base their car buying on reasons other than simple cost/use calculations might consider a hybrid in the same way one might consider a Mini Countryman when there are other cars that offer more space/performance for much less cost.

It is called personal choice

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Electric cars are actually very nice to drive. I had a test drive in a Nissan Leaf and found the performance very good. In many ways I preferred it to petrol or diesel.

Because of the short range they really only make sense as a second car and for that they would be fine if you can make the benefits add up. You would use your first car for long journeys.

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