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12/3/2015 at 12:44pm
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Hi all, question posed

We need to change our car in October and have a caravan to pull, so got to take that into account. I know all about the weights and measures etc 85 % guideline the lot, so now quoting this and that. I would like sensible reviews based on the following given information.

1. Caravan max weight 1300 Kgs (adria) - Single axle 6 berth

2. Normal family is 2 adults, 1 child, 1 teenager, 1 medium sized dog.

3. based on above would like estate or large hatch back. to carry normal assortment of items ie Caravan poles awning, etc. must have at least 75 Kgs nose weight on hitch.

4. Needs to be economical and comfy for Solo journey,as caravan sits for 9 months of the yr!!!!!.

5. Diesel Preferable and above 1.7 Ltr.

6. Cost not a major factor at present but nothing silly like Porsche Cayenne!!.

7. passed test in 1986 so no problems there.

8. What i dont understand and trying to find out is whether these so called ECO engines are strong enough to tow caravans 1.8Ltr and above.

9. Dont intend to tow abroad generally a ferw hundred miles in the UK is normal.

10. Previous and current tow vehicles with the same van are 1. Ford Focus II 2.0 TDCI Estate Zetec, 2. Volvo V70 Estate 2.0 Ltr, 3rd Vauxhall Antara 2.2Ltr 4x4.

11. Have got in mind, Astra Sports tourer, Insignia Sport tourer, Zafira , Ford Smax, Ford Focus.

12. Of previous cars i would say the antara tows the best, closely followed by the Ford Focus, then the Volvo. (same engine as the focus but approx 500 kgs heavier) checked weightbridge.

So tell me what you think.
cheers

Chris


12/3/2015 at 1:32pm
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Add a Mondeo Mk4 2.0 tdci to your list. Big, comfortable, quiet, refined, economical both solo and towing and it will tow your 1300kg caravan like it's not there. Drive the deal price on a new titanium ( as many toys as you could wish for ) is 20550. Previous model titanium with less than 10k miles on the clock a available from about 14k.


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For a licence dated 1997 or later you must add together the plated max weight of the caravan and trailer, if the total is 3500 or less you can tow it. You may even tow a caravan with a MAM greater than the cars unladen mass the restriction was removed in 2013

Mondeo Titanium 140 tdci


12/3/2015 at 2:00pm
 Location: seaham co durham
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i have a astra sportstourer 2l sri cdti 165 bhp it tows my hurricane 1000kg with 2 adults 2 cats and the rest of the house .solo is very good went to b in laws from co durham to cheltenham and back home with cruise on nearly all way there and back on half a tank at 60 mph . only gripe is no sat nav no bluetooth or dab radio


12/3/2015 at 3:01pm
 Location: Midlands
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The Eco models have the power and torque, but there maybe a weak link like the gearing maybe far too tall to pull the max tow weight up a hill or in the efforts to make everything a bit lighter a component is now a bit borderline if used for towing the same as the non eco models.

I have a Mondeo estate and it suits me needs. Plenty of carry space, Max tow 1800 - 2000kg so a 1300kg van will be no trouble.



12/3/2015 at 4:12pm
 Location: Derbyshire
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Maybe im a bit bias because we own one, but the Honda CRV 2.2 diesels would tick all your boxes, are brilliant towcars, and very reliable.

Ours is just a year old now, and we love it, so easy to tow our 1265kg Avante that we often dont notice the difference in power between solo and pulling our caravan.

Edited to add that we get around 44mpg combined solo, mainly short journeys around town and a bit of bypass work, and around 36mpg towing

Julia

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12/3/2015 at 5:03pm
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Chris

As you are aware of all the required weights etc I would say go with what suits you best as a family when solo, as that is most important for probably 90% of your driving I would say.

The advantage of owning our type of family van at 1300kg all up is you can tow with a much smaller car than the van size would suggest normally.

However for safety I would always overspec slightly the car for power and weight so you do have something in reserve at least and aren't towing on or near the limits.
our friends have a Insignia Tourer (I think 130bhp version)? and it tows their 1450kg van fine and has reasonable space and economy. Good value car for your money. Also 90kg nose?


12/3/2015 at 8:10pm
 Location: Harrogate Yorkshire.
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No need to look any further than the Skoda Octavia Estate 2.0TDi 4x4. Plenty of load space, extra traction when needed, good mpg towing and solo.

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13/3/2015 at 12:33pm
 Location: Manchester
 Outfit: Swift Challenger 524
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thank you all for you valued contributions. Time to swing around a few dealerships and see what the score is.

Think inclining to go for more the Ford Mondeo Estate or the Vx Insignia sports tourer, quite like how they look.

So lets see what happens in October. Daughters 17 by then so might not need estate just a large hatchback. haha.

rgds

Chris


14/3/2015 at 10:01am
 Location: Wigan
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If your 17 year old daughter goes to college/university, you may need a Mondeo Estate to move all her gear.


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I've been driving a Renault Koleos for a couple of months.
Dynamique S spec with Nav and bells/whistles but restrained styling.
Very impressive ride and loads of power, economical too.
Haven't done enough miles to really test it but with underpinnings and widely used engine designed with Nissan/Renault input, selectable 2 or 4wd and centre diff lock on demand it should do all I want it to.

Ps and chain drive camshafts

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14/3/2015 at 12:02pm
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Quote: Originally posted by jim oldham on 14/3/2015
If your 17 year old daughter goes to college/university, you may need a Mondeo Estate to move all her gear.


Skoda superb 2ltr 140 or 170 tdi estaite almost twice the room in the back and boot space



14/3/2015 at 12:17pm
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A Dacia Duster 4x4 would tow that easily and you could buy a brand new one for the price of a second hand other make.

We have had ours for almost 2 years now and we would buy another.
I have driven many makes of car in the past and this is the first we have owned that I would consider getting again.

Good value for the money.

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15/3/2015 at 12:01am
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I think dacia Duster would struggle with its relatively small engine. The Ford or Vauxhalls should be good. My choice would be those or a Honda crv,which are very reliable.
A mate has one with well over 100k on it,still going strong,finding one easy enough. Alternatively a Kia, we are on our third Sorento.Great cars.
4x4 more stable and useful on wet grass loose gravel etc.

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15/3/2015 at 11:56am
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If I had thought for one minute that the Duster would struggle then I wouldn't have suggested it.

However you are entitled to your opinion.

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16/3/2015 at 3:56am
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I said It might struggle with a relatively small engine. 1.5 105 bhp n'est ce pas? If I am wrong no problem:)

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16/3/2015 at 12:44pm
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Caravan club did not have any difficulty with it a couple years ago, it was judged best in its group and came close to being towcar of the year.


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For a licence dated 1997 or later you must add together the plated max weight of the caravan and trailer, if the total is 3500 or less you can tow it. You may even tow a caravan with a MAM greater than the cars unladen mass the restriction was removed in 2013

Mondeo Titanium 140 tdci



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