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Hi, any techies out there? got a vw pssat 2004 1.9tdi 130, recently had a new cat fitted and a reconned turbo, and i seem to be getting a lot of black smoke, more so when accelerating and turbo kicks in,its a bit embarrasing, tried running some injector cleaner through, but no different. got 200,000 on clock but engines got plenty of power, it does seem worse after i had the recon turbo fitted

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Try looking for any air leaks on the induction side, just a small leak can upset things as the unit will over-fuel to try to compensate.


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Blocked air filter?

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I had the same problem on a mondeo, twas a split in the pipe on the induction side.


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A reconditioned turbo - why??

What went wrong with the last one??

I ask this because if your last one went 'in style' as I call it, it may have sent (dumped) oil through the rest of the system (pipes etc) and the excess smoke could be just the new turbo sucking the gunk through and burning it off...

You may have oil in the intercooler too, and you may need that cleaning out too....


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Personpetra8315
13/10/2015 at 7:28pm
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Quote: Originally posted by GCMS2012 on 13/10/2015
origanal turbo was whistliing and over boosting according to midland turbo's at Bulwell
A reconditioned turbo - why??

What went wrong with the last one??

I ask this because if your last one went 'in style' as I call it, it may have sent (dumped) oil through the rest of the system (pipes etc) and the excess smoke could be just the new turbo sucking the gunk through and burning it off...

You may have oil in the intercooler too, and you may need that cleaning out too....





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Personpetra8315
13/10/2015 at 7:29pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Johnnie Boy on 13/10/2015
I had the same problem on a mondeo, twas a split in the pipe on the induction side.

was that a split vacuum pipe


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Quote: Originally posted by mattlad on 12/10/2015
Blocked air filter?

had full service


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13/10/2015 at 7:36pm
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thanks for your replies, had new turbo fitted as other one was whistleing very loud and was told by Midland turbo's of Bulwell nottingham, that it was over boosting, had a local garage fit me a reconditioned one from midand turbo and seems to smoke more now,it s3eems very powerfull and only smokes when under load and the turbo kicks in, but its embarrassing to drive it and feel like i am lookig at the rear view mirror all the time, and driving like a nun

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PersonJohnnie Boy
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Quote: Originally posted by petra8315 on 13/10/2015
Quote: Originally posted by Johnnie Boy on 13/10/2015I had the same problem on a mondeo, twas a split in the pipe on the induction side.
was that a split vacuum pipe



It was the pipe between EGR and intercooler, common problem on a mk 3 Mondeo



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Personpetra8315
13/10/2015 at 7:51pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Johnnie Boy on 13/10/2015
Quote: Originally posted by petra8315 on 13/10/2015
Quote: Originally posted by Johnnie Boy on 13/10/2015I had the same problem on a mondeo, twas a split in the pipe on the induction side.
was that a split vacuum pipe



It was the pipe between EGR and intercooler, common problem on a mk 3 Mondeo
Thanks jonnyboy, sorry to ask but you say the induction side, is that pipes between the air filter and the turbo, the pipes that are not under pressure





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hi 100 pc egr valve needs cleaning some people block them off but its not a good idea cheers .tom


Personpetra8315
13/10/2015 at 8:11pm
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Quote: Originally posted by MITIE1 on 13/10/2015
hi 100 pc egr valve needs cleaning some people block them off but its not a good idea cheers .tom


Tom the garage that fitted the turbo say they had cleaned the egr valve out thats why i have'nt botthered lookin there

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Quote: Originally posted by petra8315 on 13/10/2015
Quote: Originally posted by Johnnie Boy on 13/10/2015
Quote: Originally posted by petra8315 on 13/10/2015
Quote: Originally posted by Johnnie Boy on 13/10/2015I had the same problem on a mondeo, twas a split in the pipe on the induction side.
was that a split vacuum pipe


It was the pipe between EGR and intercooler, common problem on a mk 3 Mondeo
Thanks jonnyboy, sorry to ask but you say the induction side, is that pipes between the air filter and the turbo, the pipes that are not under pressure






On the Mondeo it was the pipe after the intercooler (under pressure)


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Quote: Originally posted by petra8315 on 13/10/2015
Quote: Originally posted by mattlad on 12/10/2015Blocked air filter?

had full service



I've got a wardrobe full of t-shirts, you won't believe the number of times that I have seen things that should have been done or replaced on a service, but haven't.....



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Quote: Originally posted by petra8315 on 13/10/2015
thanks for your replies, had new turbo fitted as other one was whistleing very loud and was told by Midland turbo's of Bulwell nottingham, that it was over boosting, had a local garage fit me a reconditioned one from midand turbo and seems to smoke more now,it s3eems very powerfull and only smokes when under load and the turbo kicks in, but its embarrassing to drive it and feel like i am lookig at the rear view mirror all the time, and driving like a nun


We had a Vauxhall Vivaro van in with a blown turbo, the oil seals had gone and in spite of cleaning out the intercooler and inlet manifold it took ages for the smoke to clear.

Another vehicle we had in was an Alfa Romeo 147 that came in with a complaint that it was whistling, in that case it had a blown turbo that turned out to be a symptom of another fault that turned out to be a split hose, causing the turbo to fail.

Moral of the story? Was the turbo failure a cause or a symptom?



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