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10/9/2008 at 3:13pm
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The nearest we will ever get to environmentally friendly cars is when the fossil fuels run out.  Power will then have to be produced by atomic reactors. Cars would probably be electrically powered, with roadside stations for recharging their batteries. This view is open to amendment, subject to as yet unknown advances in technology.

Whatever course transportation takes in the future, I cannot see the world population just giving up without a strenuous effort to find economic alternatives.

Bertie.



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10/9/2008 at 6:41pm
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Quote: Originally posted by timtheenchanter on 10/9/2008
I did notice on the lexus site, the 3.3L V6 hybrid gets...........
35mpg combined.

I have heard of reports that hybrid cars are coming nowhere near their manufacturers claims for fuel economy. 

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10/9/2008 at 6:44pm
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Quote: Originally posted by timtheenchanter on 10/9/2008
or, hydrogen fuel cells
Er........... where do you get the energy to make the hydrodgen?

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Quote: Originally posted by tykey on 09/9/2008
How's about a diesel and run it on veggie oil?


Most newer diesels don't like veggie oil. Neither do Lucas / CAV invection pumps. I mentioned bio diesel as this can be made from waste cooking oil and costs about 40p / litre to produce.

It is also almost carbon neutral as the carbon released by burning the oil was taken from the atmosphere as the plant grew in the first place. It also has the advantage if you produce it from waste oil of using something that would likely have gone into landfill or polluted the sewers.


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I am in the throes of buying a secondhand X Trail, if it proves reliable it might well get itself an LPG conversion.  I have also heard the hybrids don't achieve the claimed MPGs, the Prius in particular seems to fall way short of expectations.

Ali



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11/9/2008 at 9:33am
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I wouldn't be so hard on the Lexus RX400h.

We looked at one, but needed 7 seats.

It is only the first generation of such vehicles, and has advantages not mentioned here.

I agree it isn't green from a manufacturing point of view, but in other aspects it is very clever.

At speeds of less the 30mph, it can run on batteries alone. Most 30mph zones are in residential areas. This makes the air around much cleaner for people to live in.

Energy during braking is normally lost to heat. Braking also releases brake dust.

The hybrid uses some of this lost energy to recharge the batteries.

Engines have a sweet spot when it comes to fuel efficiency. The 400h waits until this spot is reached, then tops up the batteries.

With normal driving, it will return 30+ MPG around town which is very good for a car of this type.

It will also do this on a motorway run, which isn't so amazing. But since it will then just be running on the petrol engine, this is to be expected.

The unique bit is the performance on offer. 0-60 in 7 seconds! (0-62 approx 7.6)

I know performance is a dirty word these days, but in real world driving it is sometimes needed. (and really nice!)

Not many other SUVs can match that, and return 30+ mpg.

The RX400h isn't a true 4x4, but can power the rear wheels via the electric motors.

So while not ideal in the mud, it's better than nothing.

It will tow up to 2 tons(check kerb weight etc), but i wouldn't say it is the best tow car around.

The reports i have read, say the suspension is a little on the "comfort" side, ie soft.

People buy Lexus to be wafted along, so this is to be expected.

As bettery technology advances, it would get better and greener. But for the time being, at least it's trying!

 



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11/9/2008 at 10:43pm
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You all need to buy a pre 1973 range rover, Truly go anywhere.

OK approx 12 - 20mpg is not very good

BUT and its a big BUT

Its tax exempt and very very cheap insurance so i presume the government like them?

 



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Quote: Originally posted by Grampian91 on 11/9/2008

You all need to buy a pre 1973 range rover, Truly go anywhere.

OK approx 12 - 20mpg is not very good

BUT and its a big BUT

Its tax exempt and very very cheap insurance so i presume the government like them?

 

 

I remember those....you could hear half of Kuwait being sucked through the carbs every time you opened the throttle. My dad had one but i think 10mpg might have been nearer the mark. He caused a the 70`s fuel crisis single-handed.





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