I always allow plenty of room for cyclists however I have found round here I have to guess where the cyclist is going as they no longer use hand signals and very often dart down the road the wrong way :( if they don't cycle with care then they are asking for trouble ( I realise this is not the case in this instance ) both cyclists and car / lorry drivers need to respect all other road users
I sometimes take a lorry out at work if there's a driver short and I still see cyclists coming up the inside at a junction on most trips so it must happen a lot, Any LGV drivers will I'm sure agree with me that although you can be aware of them before they get to you they can disappear when along side you in certain blind spots and then you have to wait for them to appear again or if they dont wonder if they've got trapped or fell off etc before moving off again, It must be one of the most stupidest things cyclists can do and I know some of you will say 'I dont do that' theres many many more that do. Thats my only gripe with cyclists and otherwise they get plenty of room because I know the damage that could be done by hitting one, just wish they'd realise how dangerous they're behaving sometimes.
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Sorry to say no time for them,if they cant peddle a bike on a road they shouldnt be there in the first place.You have to have a license to drive a car and know the highway code, time this lot learned it and the do's and dont's.Competant cyclists exclude..
We have to consider that, tax or no tax, cyclists have more right to the road than the motorist, similar to the horse (and cart) I think I`m right in saying this . . . non powered vehicles and all that..
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I'm a cyclist and a motorist. I dispair when I see cyclists flouting all the rules of the road, I often think it is those that don't drive that must do this. Would love to use dedicated cycle lanes, separate to traffic but not always there where you want to go. Painted cycle lines on road on often completely ignored, the biggest culprits in my experience for this are buses. I would never go down the left of a bus or lorry, even in a cycle lane as they can't see you. Sometimes the cycle lines they paint are daft too and help no one! Finally, when it comes to pedestrians, when you are on a cycle, you seem to have an invisibility cloak, as it id regular you have to give way to pedestrians who step out into your right of way or are walking along on the cycle lanes. Really is a matter for all to show respect for all road users really.
Quote: Originally posted by bordercaz on 16/9/2012
I just wish they'd use the cycle lanes instead of the roads.
Couldn't agree more Caz our parish council in a joint venture with our district and county council spent 100,000 widening and making a cycle lane over 6 miles long between our village and next town do they use it do they hell.
Then the local cycle pressure group came back and asked for another in the other direction and wondered why we as a council told them to get lost
Quote: Originally posted by romany on 17/9/2012
Couldn't agree more Caz our parish council in a joint venture with our district and county council spent 100,000 widening and making a cycle lane over 6 miles long between our village and next town do they use it do they hell.
& do they maintain this cycle way, do they sweep it, repair pot holes in it & salt it in winter? Because in my experience they don't & this is the problem with cycle routes, many cyclists ride distances of several miles & they want to go quickly, not poodle along & if a cycleway is not swept/maintained/salted in winter, ie treated exactly the same as the road then cycleways are not safe to use, which explains why cyclists don't use them.
What I am noticing from some posters is a refusal to accept that cyclists have as much right on the roads as themselves & until they change their mindset about this they will continue to be a danger to cyclists.
Until cycleways are treated as part of the road infrastructure & maintained as such rather than being treated as just a recreational amenity & allowed to become overgrown, covered in rubbish, unlit at night & unsalted in winter then cyclists will find them unsafe to use & prefer to take their chances on the roads to get to their destination quickly.
Quote: Originally posted by Tentz on 17/9/2012
Until cycleways are treated as part of the road infrastructure & maintained as such rather than being treated as just a recreational amenity & allowed to become overgrown, covered in rubbish, unlit at night & unsalted in winter then cyclists will find them unsafe to use & prefer to take their chances on the roads to get to their destination quickly.
As a cyclist would you mind if a contribution to maintenance\service was asked for as road users are required to pay towards road maintenance?
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I hardly ever use cycle lanes when on me bike. If you sort of keep up wi the traffic, you don`t have a problem. But you have to be able to turn your neck to see what`s behind you without falling off your bike, that`s the difficult bit when ya get older . . .
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Quote: Originally posted by romany on 17/9/2012Couldn't agree more Caz our parish council in a joint venture with our district and county council spent 100,000 widening and making a cycle lane over 6 miles long between our village and next town do they use it do they hell.
& do they maintain this cycle way, do they sweep it, repair pot holes in it & salt it in winter? Because in my experience they don't & this is the problem with cycle routes, many cyclists ride distances of several miles & they want to go quickly, not poodle along & if a cycleway is not swept/maintained/salted in winter, ie treated exactly the same as the road then cycleways are not safe to use, which explains why cyclists don't use them.
What I am noticing from some posters is a refusal to accept that cyclists have as much right on the roads as themselves & until they change their mindset about this they will continue to be a danger to cyclists.
see original post tentz its brand new well 3 years old now and no I don't accept cyclist have the same rights on the road
their pressure groups demand cycle paths costing millions nationwide and like you expect them to be swept at tax payers expense then cry blue murder when asked to pay a tax towards it
Don't know what your local authority is but here gully emptying once a year road sweeping on b roads twice a year salting no chance potholes normally highlighted twice a year with white paint round them
An aggressive riding style does NOT involve 20 other people nor does it involve licra. It certainly does NOT involve cycling on the wrong side of the road.
It DOES involve taking a fair share or the road without being pushed into the verge. It also involves clear signals and adopting the correct path at junctions and roundabouts. If we did not motorists would cut us up something rotten.
that is not an aggressive style of riding that is sensible style of riding the same as i said earlier about being taught at school the highway code. its the i am a cyclist so you will give way attitude that gives cyclists a bad name i bet not one person would complain about them if they rode like that but unfortunatley they now seem to be the minority saying that i passed three the other day single file waved me passed when it was safe as they could see further up the road than me so they are out there maybe its time to bring in a test and licence
Two weeks ago i was driving down a country road with a tar pavement in the middle of nowhere.There were two people on bikes abreast and, behind them a long traffic que.No one could get by them for oncoming traffic till i sat behind them with my hand kept on the horn.They soon got the message to use the pavement as there was not a living soul on it for miles.
To me,this was a pair of no brainers who,bar for putting their own lifes in danger could have caused an accident with people trying to get passed.
...& so it goes on..but the future of cycling is indeed secure as the cost of petrol/diesel continues to rise & oil supplies are in decline. Hardly a 'them & us' situation, many of us are both motorists & cyclists. Perhaps the inconsiderate cyclists are also inconsiderate motorists as well.
The way forward is of course integrated transport systems involving road, rail & cycleways but while some drivers harbour bitterness toward cyclists & fail to show them consideration under all circumstances cyclists will continue to come off second best when involved in accidents with motor vehicles.