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12/2/2013 at 9:40am
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Octavia 4x4 2120 kg

Scout 4x4 2130 kg



12/2/2013 at 9:45am
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Santa Fe has 5 year warranty, Skoda 3, worth considering, although Skodas are pretty reliable. Brother in Law has one as company car which has done high miles and its fine.

Can alwys sell them to taxi company afterwards!



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12/2/2013 at 10:12am
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Octavia 4x4 2120 kg

Scout 4x4 2130 kg

What towcar states that they are

octavia 4x4 1535

scout 4x4 1605

autotrader quote less i think the figures your quoting are the gross vehicle weights. which is not the kerbweights

Bessie

 




12/2/2013 at 10:19am
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If in doubt just use something like  http://www.whattowcar.com/ 

The Skodas and Mondeos come out pretty poor on stability and match on this site for that van

Not sure any Skoda's are 2.2tons kerbweight!! They are OK cars but not suitable for every single situation that ever exists in the world Skoda Bob!!



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I agree, Bob is quoting entirely the wrong figures. Bob do you understand kerb weights GVW etc?

Ali


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Bob's figures would put them very close to the kerb weight of our Range Rover P38 DSE??? , must be an active imagination?


12/2/2013 at 1:34pm
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Skoda and

The towing capability for the Skoda Octavia Scout Combi - 2.0 TDI [4x4]
with a :
24

Performance on leveled roads
Top speed
Acceleration and take over
Towing ability
Performance in mountainous regions
Drive off uphill
Driving on motorway slopes
Driving on steep roads

66

16%
37
250 kg 20 1605 kg
25.1 kg

66

66


Skoda Octavia Scout Combi - 2.0 TDI [4x4] (103 kW/138 bhp)
Date of manufacture: march 2007 - up to now. Towball limit: 75 kg (Advise: 25.1 kg)

Important for safe towing is the weight ratio between Car and Caravan. The weight ratio (loaded caravan / kerbweight tow car) for the Skoda and is 16%. This means that the match between car and caravan is perfect. The stability and safety index is to low for safe driving.

The towing performances of this Skoda with your are perfect (performance index = 109).
You may expect excellent performances from this outfit. On flat roads it's easy to come along, top gear is applicable in all cases.

On motorway inclines you will be able not only to come along, but be the first at the top. On steep roads you have more than sufficient power to keep going. On hill starts there will be more than enough power to get going, provided the wheels have traction.

Don't know there make of van, but I put in there max van weight of 1450.

What you also have to think about is every day use, there is no point buying a massive 4x4 just for a few tows a year, and then having the additional running costs for the rest of the year

 



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Bob

Firstly you haven't entered 1450kg but 250kg as weight of van, so you copy and paste is meaningless I am afraid

Secondly Santa Fe and X Trail are not "massive" 4x4's

They want a safe and stable tow and the cars you are mentioning do not fit the category for novice towers



12/2/2013 at 4:32pm
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16%
37
250 kg 20 1605 kg
25.1 kg

 

Hello.......... look at the picture Bob under the car it states 1605kg, thats what the car weighs not 2130kg like you posted earlier. Towcars are all about KERBWEIGHT 

The greater the gap between kerbweight and caravan weight the better

Bessie



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Oh dear oh dear, that is one messed up comparison. I have an X Trail, it is barely bigger than our Almera and is reliable and cheap to run.

Ali


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Yes, we have a 2011 X trail, and its about the same length as the Passat it replaced, but crucially it's heavier kerb weight makes it a better tool for towing. And it's ok on fuel.

And we just fancied a 4x4 for a change (albeit not a 'massive' one).


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how about vauxhall antara lifetime warranty and start from £15495 ??

 

Opel and Elddis

The towing capability for the Opel Antara - 2.2 CDTi [2WD]
with a Elddis Avante 636:
24

66

79%
37
1450 kg 20 1836 kg
85 kg

66

66



Performance on leveled roads
Top speed
Acceleration and take over
Towing ability
Performance in mountainous regions
Drive off uphill
Driving on motorway slopes
Driving on steep roads

66

79%
37
1450 kg 20 1836 kg
85 kg

66

66


Opel Antara - 2.2 CDTi [2WD] (120 kW/161 bhp)
Date of manufacture: january 2011 - up to now. Towball limit: - kg (Advise: 85 kg)

Important for safe towing is the weight ratio between Car and Caravan. The weight ratio (loaded caravan / kerbweight tow car) for the Opel and Elddis is 79%. This means that the match between car and caravan is perfect. The stability and safety index is good for this outfit.

The towing performances of this Opel with your Elddis are perfect (performance index = 66).
You may expect excellent performances from this outfit. On flat roads it's easy to come along, top gear is applicable in most cases.

On motorway inclines you will be able not only to come along, but be the first at the top. On steep roads you have more than sufficient power to keep going. On hill starts there will be more than enough power to get going, provided the wheels have traction.



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Skoda octavia scout. 2010 reg 140cr diesel kerb weight 1725 kgs full tank of fuel.car empty.weighed at a vosa weight bridge at Stirling.


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Our Pegasus max weight 1400Kg comes out as 82% according to whatowcar with Sorento KX2, which is definitely heavier than a Skoda Octavia!

OP should be fine with X-trail or Santa Fe.



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13/2/2013 at 9:21am
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Quote: Originally posted by sunshinetours on 12/2/2013

Bob

Firstly you haven't entered 1450kg but 250kg as weight of van, so you copy and paste is meaningless I am afraid

Secondly Santa Fe and X Trail are not "massive" 4x4's

They want a safe and stable tow and the cars you are mentioning do not fit the category for novice towers


Right clever clogs you do the calculations, I did put 1450KG in the max box as thats all we have to go on the car is the Octavia comby 2ltr diesel 4x4, even selecting the older model its well within


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Quote: Originally posted by Skoda Bob on 13/2/2013


Right clever clogs you do the calculations, I did put 1450KG in the max box as thats all we have to go on the car is the Octavia comby 2ltr diesel 4x4, even selecting the older model its well within

No the OP's signature shows they have a Sprite Major 6 so putting that in with your suggested car and witha  250kg payload to take MTPLM to around 1450kg gives

Skoda and Sprite

The towing capability for the Skoda Octavia Scout Combi - 2.0 TDI [4x4]
with a Sprite Major 6:
24

Performance on leveled roads
Top speed
Acceleration and take over
Towing ability
Performance in mountainous regions
Drive off uphill
Driving on motorway slopes
Driving on steep roads

66

90%
37
1447 kg 20 1605 kg
75 kg

66

66


Skoda Octavia Scout Combi - 2.0 TDI [4x4] (103 kW/138 bhp)
Date of manufacture: march 2007 - up to now. Towball limit: 75 kg (Advise: 75 kg)

Important for safe towing is the weight ratio between Car and Caravan. The weight ratio (loaded caravan / kerbweight tow car) for the Skoda and Sprite is 90%. This means that the caravan is rather heavy for this car. The stability and safety index is low for this outfit

It will have plenty of power it doesn;t make it a stable and safe tow for a novice tower. its about reading what people are asking for



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