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Subject Topic: Which Mondeo? Please help :-)
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01/10/2013 at 4:32pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Grampian91 on 01/10/2013
2006 EDGE model maybe not not an LX.




I seriously considered ordering an LX with the 2.2 engine, but the price was just a bit more than I wanted and the one I bought was real bargain.



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Mondeo Titanium 140 tdci


01/10/2013 at 5:44pm
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Hi all

before getting into whether the LX model was available in a 2.2 poster has stated he made a mistake and both models are 2.0.

I have a 2.0 tdci ghia on a 55 plate bought in early 2009 with 33000 miles on it. When bought it had a towbar already fitted and I was dubious about buying it. At the time of buying the car we went camping with a trailer. In 2010 we bought our first caravan a 2 berth swift challenger 470 which towed really well. Problem we had was that on our return from our first outing the clutch went and after taking it to our local garage it was confirmed clutch had gone and scoring on the dual mass fly wheel fixed at a cost of just under £1000.

Must admit since fixing it the car has been fine and we have upgraded to a bigger caravan this year.

 



01/10/2013 at 6:09pm
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I bought a 2 ltr LX estate on 04 plate and I'm really chuffed with it.
Got it about 3 weeks ago tow bar and 13 pin electrics £240, tows our small van effortlessly.

I'm well impressed


01/10/2013 at 6:14pm
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Dont use 6th gear when towing..

Although it will pull fine with no issues your actually using more fuel.

6th gear is for 60mph+ when not towing. Again yes it drives fine below 60mph in 6th gear but uses more fuel.

Ive tested it several times. With an OBD reader and proper fill the tank to check the figures.

40mph in 5th uses more fuel than 4th gear.
4th gear the figures were something like 9% throttle usage, In 5th gear the throttle was at 18% and pumping more fuel in to match.

Keep the revs around 1800rpm. Dont let them go below 1500.
Unless its had a clutch and flywheel recently budget for one.



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Hi thanks for the advice grampian91 on towing. :-) and robert/julie i am a she not a he lol ;-)
I am still set on getting a mondeo but from what i have gathered low mileage are hard to come by and if its done a lot of miles then check its had clutch and flywheel done. If not it could cause expensive problems at any time. Am i right?? Also when not towing the caravan the mondeo will be our family car running round town so would a diesel or petrol be more suitable?
All this advice has been really helpful :-)


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01/10/2013 at 7:34pm
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Quote: Originally posted by uno1 on 01/10/2013
Hi thanks for the advice grampian91 on towing. :-) and robert/julie i am a she not a he lol ;-)
I am still set on getting a mondeo but from what i have gathered low mileage are hard to come by and if its done a lot of miles then check its had clutch and flywheel done. If not it could cause expensive problems at any time. Am i right?? Also when not towing the caravan the mondeo will be our family car running round town so would a diesel or petrol be more suitable?
All this advice has been really helpful :-)


Diesel all the time, there are no problems with the mk3 mondeo in this respect.



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Mondeo Titanium 140 tdci


01/10/2013 at 8:09pm
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No DPF issues with a MK3 mondeo. Petrol would be my 1st choice. But short journey's your going to get less than 30mpg.

Whichever one you buy make sure you give it a good run at least once a week.



01/10/2013 at 9:09pm
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Bought a 55 reg mondeo estate tdci 4 weeks ago With 108000 miles on the clock cheap. Fantastic on fuel. Trip says 51 mpg. Done a manual check at full fuel tank and its actually doing 56 mpg. well pleased with it. Just got to fit the towbar now. Towbar off fleebay £86 with single electrics. Witter from towequipe.
Good luck in your choice of car. Dont let mileage put you off.
Keiron...


01/10/2013 at 10:40pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Grampian91 on 01/10/2013
No DPF issues with a MK3 mondeo. Petrol would be my 1st choice. But short journey's your going to get less than 30mpg.

Whichever one you buy make sure you give it a good run at least once a week.





sorry about this .. whats DPF !

I've had a few beers and the brain is hurting


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Quote: Originally posted by Grampian91 on 01/10/2013
No DPF issues with a MK3 mondeo. Petrol would be my 1st choice. But short journey's your going to get less than 30mpg.

Whichever one you buy make sure you give it a good run at least once a week.





Why should I give it a good run? And how long for? What distance and what sort of speed?
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01/10/2013 at 11:48pm
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With the Mk3 diesel you can use it as you want, it does not need a good run at regular intervals. Mine only ever got that when towing. I had it 7 years and it never skipped a beat. I replaced it in June with a year old Mondeo only because I fancied something new and I decided that if I did not spend it my kids will.
Buy the tdci mondeo you will never regret it. Since you are towing I would not even consider the petrol version.

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Mondeo Titanium 140 tdci


01/10/2013 at 11:53pm
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A good run to get the engine upto temperature long enough to burn the moisture off the oil.
Its not a speed or distance issue, Its a combination of the two.

Its not so much of a problem these days, But older cars used to get what looked like mayonnaise on the dipstick and on the oil filler cap.
Modern oils and better ventilation systems help cut that down. But lots of short journeys with larger engines wont do them any good at all.


Johnnie boy a DPF is a Diesel Particulate Filter. It stores the soot from the combustion cycle in the exhaust until you run the engine at above 40mph for approx 20 minutes.
Different systems require different regeneration cycles but generally 20 minutes above 40mph.

If you dont they clog up and throw fault codes which may lead to expensive replacement parts.

Shorter journey's dont burn off contaminates in the oil so should be changed more often.

I do lots of short journeys and get the oil changed every 6 months.

170,000 miles and running well. So it works for me.



02/10/2013 at 8:33am
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Quote: Originally posted by Grampian91 on 01/10/2013
A good run to get the engine upto temperature long enough to burn the moisture off the oil.
Its not a speed or distance issue, Its a combination of the two.

Its not so much of a problem these days, But older cars used to get what looked like mayonnaise on the dipstick and on the oil filler cap.
Modern oils and better ventilation systems help cut that down. But lots of short journeys with larger engines wont do them any good at all.


Johnnie boy a DPF is a Diesel Particulate Filter. It stores the soot from the combustion cycle in the exhaust until you run the engine at above 40mph for approx 20 minutes.
Different systems require different regeneration cycles but generally 20 minutes above 40mph.

If you dont they clog up and throw fault codes which may lead to expensive replacement parts.

Shorter journey's dont burn off contaminates in the oil so should be changed more often.

I do lots of short journeys and get the oil changed every 6 months.

170,000 miles and running well. So it works for me.





Thanks for that


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must be good how many are taxis or have look at a skoda Octavia


02/10/2013 at 1:52pm
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The older Octavia is more of a Focus size though.



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Don't be scared of high milers, I'm just about to get rid of my 59 plate company Accord with 130k on the clock, it drives as new and has had no problems at all (apt from new clutch), it will be a bargain for some auction dweller!

I would be wary of the clutch on any diesel with the dual mass flywheel at around 70k, my last 3 cars have had a new clutch/flywheel at around this mileage, probably because I tow!

The mileage you buy a car with really depends on how many miles you will do, if I only did 10k/yr I would be looking at buying a high miler and get a better car for less money.



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