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Subject Topic: What car will tow 2000kg?
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21/10/2014 at 10:39pm
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Ah OK, thanks for that.

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21/10/2014 at 10:50pm
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As my name suggests i was a massive 4x4 fan having had several shoguns to tow our twin axle vans over the years,well I've just towed our Bailey with my new purchase and my eyes have been opened..
An Audi A8 3.0 ltr quattro, they will tow 2300kgs braked,and I can well believe it have towed our twin axle Bailey bologna from jct 9 m6 to Llangollen so no great distance but enough to get a feel for the car and fuel was 27ish,but with out van getting 35+ on a run,loads better than a big 4x4.my friend who we van with loads has had one for 2 yrs and has a similar van has had no problems

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21/10/2014 at 11:12pm
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Of all the larger vehicles I have owned or driven with my job, the Landrover 101 would be my tow vehicle of choice, but that is "a little gutsy" fuel wise.

Land Rover Disco, too expensive for spares.
Volvo Estate, too big.
Audi, too prone to rusting on the sub frames.
Duster 4X4, too light for modern vans (and a host of other reasons too long to get on one page).

But thanks guys and gals for your input.

It is going to be a difficult choice in that I need a heavier car, but there just being the 2 of us, I don't want a big car.
It has to be heavy enough to give us a range of choice in caravans, comfortable enough to drive distances, but still small enough for town and village parking.


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22/10/2014 at 9:42am
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Quote: Originally posted by LobeyDosser on 21/10/2014
Of all the larger vehicles I have owned or driven with my job, the Landrover 101 would be my tow vehicle of choice, but that is "a little gutsy" fuel wise.

Land Rover Disco, too expensive for spares.
Volvo Estate, too big.
Audi, too prone to rusting on the sub frames.
Duster 4X4, too light for modern vans (and a host of other reasons too long to get on one page).

But thanks guys and gals for your input.

It is going to be a difficult choice in that I need a heavier car, but there just being the 2 of us, I don't want a big car.
It has to be heavy enough to give us a range of choice in caravans, comfortable enough to drive distances, but still small enough for town and village parking.




This is why I would choose van first Lobey. If you don't you will need a very heavy car to tow the upper end of your range which will also mean a large car in practice.

If you want a smaller car you will need to find a lighter weight van in reality to be able to tow safely



22/10/2014 at 10:50am
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As I've posted before my Chrysler 300C Touring (Estate) is an ideal tow car for heavier vans.

It weighs 2.3 tonnes and has a 3 litre diesel engine..

The drive train is from the series 5 Merc.

It pulls like a train and is more economical then most 4 x 4's



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22/10/2014 at 11:44am
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Executive luxury saloons can make great tow cars (I know I drive one) but they are not as heavy as some think

Very few if any are at or over 2000kg kerbweight including the ones mentioned above according to most sites.

The high braked towing weight they can pull is merely a manufacturers limit for pulling a trailer up a certain slope from a standing start and not what is safe to tow as far as a slab side box is concerned

The plus is for these types of vehicle that you get a lovely car to drive for the maybe 70% + of time you aren't towing!


22/10/2014 at 12:37pm
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Quote: Originally posted by sunshinetours on 22/10/2014
Quote: Originally posted by LobeyDosser on 21/10/2014Of all the larger vehicles I have owned or driven with my job, the Landrover 101 would be my tow vehicle of choice, but that is "a little gutsy" fuel wise.

Land Rover Disco, too expensive for spares.
Volvo Estate, too big.
Audi, too prone to rusting on the sub frames.
Duster 4X4, too light for modern vans (and a host of other reasons too long to get on one page).

But thanks guys and gals for your input.

It is going to be a difficult choice in that I need a heavier car, but there just being the 2 of us, I don't want a big car.
It has to be heavy enough to give us a range of choice in caravans, comfortable enough to drive distances, but still small enough for town and village parking.




This is why I would choose van first Lobey. If you don't you will need a very heavy car to tow the upper end of your range which will also mean a large car in practice.

If you want a smaller car you will need to find a lighter weight van in reality to be able to tow safely





You're looking for something that doesn't exist Lobey, you want a small car which weights at least 2200. There aren't any.

If you want to tow that weight safely you need a 4x4 like an X5 / Disco etc..

Our van is around 1600 and even that doesn't tow well with my Audi A4, we always use the X5


22/10/2014 at 2:26pm
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Actually there is one 4X4 car the SsangYong Korando and that does fit my "small car/heavy towing" capabilities but I am uneasy about the SsangYong build quality etc.

Advertised as being able to comfortably tow its own weight and a kerb weight of 2180kg, even with the 85% recommended weight, that would give me up to 1853kg.

However, having now had the experience of owning a Romanian Designed/Indian Built Dacia Duster 4X4, I still need a lot of questions answered before booking a Test Drive in a SsangYong.


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Having had two Rexton's, only just traded in the second one in April, all round I found them pretty good. They would have pulled my van all day long, and as the saying goes you would not have known it was back there.
Only problems I really had was with the second one, when I traded it it needed a passengers door mirror, drivers rear window motor and the central locking needed looking at. I had already replaced the solenoid that operated the tailgate lock, so as you can see all problems electrical.

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22/10/2014 at 4:32pm
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That is interesting Blueexpo97.

I will bear that in mind.

How did you find things like build quality, paint quality, information availability, resale value and general running costs?

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Build quality was pretty good I thought, nothing ever fell off.
My last one was metallic black and the paint quality was excellent, boy it looked good when all polished up.
My local dealer at the time, he is no longer, was not a great deal of help, I got more help on the SsangYong owners forum. They're very big in the Netherlands don't you know.
Resale value, poor.
General service items were cheap enough, used to get mine serviced every 10,000 miles and I think the cost was about a £100.
Replaced both sets of discs/pads some were from motor factors, some from dealer, obviously they were more expensive.
With it being the 2.7 it was sore on diesel.

Don't know if you have seen this

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22/10/2014 at 5:28pm
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Thanks Blueexpo97.

No I hadn't seen that topic.
Guess what my bed time reading will be tonight!!!

Thanks.

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22/10/2014 at 7:19pm
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Might be better going back to that lovely Wheelhome Sprintaway Lux?


22/10/2014 at 10:34pm
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Our family has been added to since then.

Indeed it was this other family member that broke the camels back as far as space in the Sprintaway went.

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23/10/2014 at 10:58am
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The Rexton's were at the NEC show last week and for the price they look OK and certainly paint finish and build quality looked fine. Very plasticky inside but as expected really.

I do however think your concerns as buying a budget motor built to a tight price are worth checking out as far as possible, in exactly the same way as I voiced when you were looking at Dacia's.

Personally I would rather buy an established "more premium" brand of a couple of years old than one of these types of vehicle until maybe they become more established like Kia and Hyundai have, and upped their game (and prices!) accordingly


23/10/2014 at 3:24pm
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Och the Dacia Duster is okay apart from the lack of "true" information that I can get about it. For that you need to join the Dacia Forum and get other owners information.
Also the lack of parts can be a problem, however the real reason we chose the Dacia is that the dealer/service garage is less than 3 miles from our house.
The Dacia's downside is that we are limited to a 4 berth van that is less than 1164kg. A rather restricted choice.

All that said, the idea of spending 20K on a new car plus 20K on a new van will require a lot of thought as to whether we would get our monies worth out of them.

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