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Quote: Originally posted by Rob and Tina on 24/4/2018

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I still think you would get a fairly new Rexton to do the job and it would still have a few years manufacturers warranty left on it to help if you did encounter any problems. A Rexton would probably be around an 86 to 90% match depending on the exact model.


Rob

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Quote: Originally posted by Rob and Tina on 24/4/2018

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An 88% ratio is a lot better than a 97% ratio. I think the noseweight limit on a Rexton is over 100kg, the limit on an alko stabiliser hitch is 100kg so no noseweight problem.

I don't know how big your budget is but I think the price of an Audi Q7 which is 5 years old will still be higher than a 2 year old Rexton with 3 years unlimited mileage warranty left on it.

The 85% recommendation is only a recommendation, if you have a suitable vehicle and 30 years experience then 88% will be fine.


Rob

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Quote: Originally posted by Phishing on 23/4/2018

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Audi Q7 s line - excellent, way more expensive than Shogun
BMW X5 or X6 m50d - Its a BMW, nuff said.
Jeep Grand Cherokee - Will last half as long as a Shogun
Land Rover Discovery -1/10th as reliable as a Shogun
VW Touareg - My second choice after a Shogun

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Quote: Originally posted by Baileyjake on 26/4/2018

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Quote: Originally posted by Phishing on 23/4/2018

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Audi Q7 s line - excellent, way more expensive than Shogun
BMW X5 or X6 m50d - Its a BMW, nuff said.
Jeep Grand Cherokee - Will last half as long as a Shogun
Land Rover Discovery -1/10th as reliable as a Shogun
VW Touareg - My second choice after a Shogun

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i have a .....shogun a 2014 SG4

its an awesome towcar but a rangerover it is not...

but i like it.

i looked at Touaregs bacause i could get one for the same price as the shogun but i wanted 7 seats and a huge boot.

it has a payload of 1000kgs, not many cars offer that. it can tow upto 3300kg and with a kerb weight of 2200kg 85% would be 1870kg

i can carry 3 adult bikes on the spare wheel. an inflatable boat and outboard motor in the boot. an awning in the boot and still tow may caravan up steep gradients without slowing down.

its a much bigger vehicle than the Touareg.

the shogun may well be outside the requirments of the OP and they may not appreciate the fuel economy and agricultural nature. the Agricultural nature though does make it robust and if you have a mk4 there are very few reported problems.

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Quote: Originally posted by issym on 26/4/2018

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Quote: Originally posted by Baileyjake on 26/4/2018

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Quote: Originally posted by Phishing on 23/4/2018

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Audi Q7 s line - excellent, way more expensive than Shogun
BMW X5 or X6 m50d - Its a BMW, nuff said.
Jeep Grand Cherokee - Will last half as long as a Shogun
Land Rover Discovery -1/10th as reliable as a Shogun
VW Touareg - My second choice after a Shogun

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i have a .....shogun a 2014 SG4

its an awesome towcar but a rangerover it is not...

but i like it.

i looked at Touaregs bacause i could get one for the same price as the shogun but i wanted 7 seats and a huge boot.

it has a payload of 1000kgs, not many cars offer that. it can tow upto 3300kg and with a kerb weight of 2200kg 85% would be 1870kg

i can carry 3 adult bikes on the spare wheel. an inflatable boat and outboard motor in the boot. an awning in the boot and still tow may caravan up steep gradients without slowing down.

its a much bigger vehicle than the Touareg.

the shogun may well be outside the requirments of the OP and they may not appreciate the fuel economy and agricultural nature. the Agricultural nature though does make it robust and if you have a mk4 there are very few reported problems.

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Whatever we choose will be “my” car as I tend not to need one very often. Work, town and supermarket are all less than a mile from home. If I want to go into either of our local cities then I get the bus as it is cheaper than car park fees!
So criteria is to tow the van within all the recommended limits.
All other values such as tax, insurance, economy, cost then start to add on. So if a larger vehicle is cheaper to run then that would be ok. I don’t mean fuel economy if it’s a gas guzzler but cheaper in other ways that’s ok. I mean servicing and repairs.

And I may still just go seasonal as we tend to go to the same area all the time. Our main holiday is in USA with our grandkids but it’s not a holiday, so like to go away a lot of week ends over the summer, and maybe Christmas. We stay within 2 hours of home, at towing speed.

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Quote: Originally posted by SamandRose on 01/5/2018

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The difference is that cars like the Land Cruiser and Shogun are essentially commercial/agricultural vehicles first and cars second. They're built specifically to go off-road and to tow heavy weights, so if that's what you're going to be using it for then fine. However, the compromise is poor levels of comfort, refinement, fuel economy etc (basically most of what you might look for in a car) on the road.

Cars like the Touareg and Q7 are luxury cars that just happen to have some off-road capability. So they'll be much nicer to drive and - repairs aside - probably cheaper to run. But they won't be anywhere near as capable off-road and if something does break, probably more expensive to repair.

Is there any reason for having left the Volvo XC90 off your list? I understand that they're highly rated as both family cars and tow cars (if not brilliant off-road) and there are lots of them about.

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