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02/10/2023 at 5:28pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 02/10/2023
Apparently the problem of rubber from tyres is worse with EVs than it is with conventional cars, as they tend to be heavier and have bigger tyres. I do about 5,000 miles a year these days, less than half what I used to, especially when I was still working.
The issue with rubber from tyres being worse is an oft repeated statement, but needs qualification.
The amount of rubber released from a tyre is directly proportional to wear. The faster it wears, the quicker the release. Tyre wear does depend on weight. An EV of a given size weighs more than the ICE counterpart.
Eg. XC40 D4 AWD 1735kg, XC40 T8 AWD (EV) 2188kg
For comparison a Hyundai Santa Fe Diesle AWD weighs in at 1,865 - 2,059 kg
But it depends on the size of the car
Eg Pug 208 1.2 Petrol 1233kg, 208 1.5d Diesel 1265, 208 Electric 1564kg
The electric 208 weighs significantly less than the diesel XC40.
But heavier cars have tyres that are reinforced and have a tougher compound to improve lifetime.(See extra load tyres).
Wear also comes from hard acceleration and deceleration, particularly wheel spin. EVs are incredibly good at controlling power - their traction control is vastly more reactive than ICE cars due to the nature of the power generation and drive train (measured and adjusted 1000s of time a second, not 10s of times a second.
So the question is really - how long does a set of tyres last?
My old XC90 2,129kg (185hp, 400Nm) would get through a set in about 12,000 miles.
My previous V60 D6 1800kg (290hp, 670Nm), about 18,000 miles.
My current Polestar 2 2227kg (408hp, 660Nm), about 23,000 miles.
So - per mile driven? The EV is way better!
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Quote: Originally posted by 664DaveS on 05/10/2023
I wouldn't consider an ev at the moment as they are too expensive and most won't tow our van.
We just changed our diesel Santa Fe for a self charging hybrid Tucson.
We couldn't get a diesel and the Santa Fe hybrids are a bit pricey!
The Tucson will pull 1650 kg , more than our van. It's a bit smaller but more than large enough for 2.
With 230 hp it certainly goes well. It is 6 speed automatic.
Economy solo 45 to 50 mpg towing 25. Only one tow so far. It will get better with more mileage. So similar to the diesel.
The handbook says not to tow until it has done 1200 miles, which we did.
It's under £40 k so lower VED too.
The self charging Tucson has an extra 30hp but can only tow 1350kg! Plus its more expensive.
My wife popped to the shops the other day and said it was in EV mode most of the way! Very quiet but it beeps when reversing.
The dealer ordered us a spare wheel and tools which fit in the well under the boot floor. It had a plastic oddments tray there which lifts out.
It's a full size steel with jack.
So far pretty pleased with it.
Great car the Tucson Dave, I have the PHEV, 263BHP Ultimate, the towing capacity would be no good for a larger van, but ours is only a small 2 berth so fine for us. Would I get a PHEV again? Not sure yet, although we have had it for 18 months.
Plus side though, on a recent trip to Exeter, 50 round trip starting with a full battery, I got 86 mpg there, saving battery, and 236mpg coming back, sensible driving. Pulled onto my drive when it switched to full HEV when battery down to 16%. It cost around £2.90 to charge it back up. So for the shorter trips it is a big saving on fuel.
Another example two days ago, trip to Mole Valley Farmers, 23 mile round trip, 999mpg there and back, with an estimate of 12 miles left on EV only.
Horses for courses I guess. But a great car to drive/tour, been as far as the Pyrennes, around 25mpg towing.
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