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Hi thanks to all for the replys.

you've all been very helpful ...Thanks.

Hi Gary,

Many thanks.

Quote: Originally posted by Papa Pip on 20/7/2008

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If the Police stop you and you have to produce documents then you have 7 days to do so, if you notify them it is a leased car on motability they can check that on the Computer and have a copy of the reg doc sent to them. You will stilll have the insurance documents and driving licence etc.

Hope that helps

PP

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here you go... nothing iffy, 100 percent legal and £7.95 delivered.... link

how dealers / halfords charge what they do is beyond me, but problem solved for you at just under eight pounds, totally legal.!! 

Quote: Originally posted by redz on 21/7/2008

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here you go... nothing iffy, 100 percent legal and £7.95 delivered.... link

how dealers / halfords charge what they do is beyond me, but problem solved for you at just under eight pounds, totally legal.!! 

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Quote: Originally posted by LegsDownKettleOn on 21/7/2008

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I might have just been unfortunate, but a few months ago I had to produce my documents. I had mislayed my insurance certificate. I got to the police station with a case full of documents for my car and the wifes, but the insurance for mine was missing. The WPC said that they new the vehicle was insured, but I was commiting an offence by failing to produce the documents requested. Eventually I managed to get an extention to the 7 days and got a duplicate, but the WPC seemed very keen to prosecute me until I spoke to an officer. I recently changed my insurance and the broker wanted to know if it was OK to email the insurance certificate. The police would not accept a copy of the insurance certificate, it had to be the original one issued by the insurance company, so an emailed certificate printed off would not have been enough to keep them happy either.

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Quote: Originally posted by pajaholic on 22/7/2008

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Unfortunately, it seems that the police would rather believe a database that is known to contain inaccuracies since there have been cases where cars have been crushed even after the production of valid, original insurance certificates.

Geoff

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Hi Geoff, watched a documentary on telly last night which showed why this happens, usually the owner takes too long to produce the documents, or there is something else that is illegal about the vehicle. One chaps BMW had no valid road tax and he was only using the car because his misses had kicked him out, he had the luggage in the car to prove that. He was allowed to remove all his personal belongings before the car was taken to the impound, after 2 weeks he had not paid the tax and the car was crushed.

There may well be some cases of vehicles being crushed in error and that is certainly something that needs looking at but on the whole the powers that be have to get tough on this as it is usually the legal motorist that ends up the loser for all the dishonest drivers who have no tax, or mot which also makes any insurance void especially in the cases where the driver does not hold a full licence.

Latest reports are that 1 in 20 cars is illegal, with the amount of vehicles on the roads in the UK that is a horrendous amount of vehicles which are potentially more likely to be involed in other illegal pursuits or, heaven forbid, in a fatal accident.

No matter how hard the authorities try to clamp down on this then there will be errors, but I believe that is a small price to pay to stop the illegal use of vehicles and cloning etc. One chap on the program knows his car was cloned and he is stopped regularly, luckily for him it was cloned by an IC1 male and he is of ethnic origin, the fact that he is the legal driver and not the cloned vehicle is recorded so that the Police can check their records in order to reduce this problem for that driver.

Perhaps the new idea of chipped number plates will help with this problem in future, it is certainly something that needs to be looked into as there are far too many illegal vehicles on the roads costing billions of pounds each year. Using red deisel in motors is also something that is being cracked down on and if you get caught using it once you will find that you are stopped more often to be checked as your car details go on the database for that offence too.

Quote: Originally posted by pajaholic on 21/7/2008

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Quote: Originally posted by redz on 21/7/2008

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here you go... nothing iffy, 100 percent legal and £7.95 delivered.... link

how dealers / halfords charge what they do is beyond me, but problem solved for you at just under eight pounds, totally legal.!! 

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Incredibly, it seems that you're correct.

 

Thankyou Geoffrey..! 

Quote: Originally posted by Papa Pip on 22/7/2008

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Quote: Originally posted by pajaholic on 22/7/2008

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Unfortunately, it seems that the police would rather believe a database that is known to contain inaccuracies since there have been cases where cars have been crushed even after the production of valid, original insurance certificates.

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Hi Geoff, watched a documentary on telly last night which showed why this happens, usually the owner takes too long to produce the documents, or there is something else that is illegal about the vehicle.

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That wasn't the case here and in other cases where the police have relied exclusively on the MID even though their own SOPs tell them not to.

Note that in the case I've linked, GMP say they haven't received a request for reimbursement of the towing and storage charges. However, the reason for that is that Mr Booth didn't pay the charges. His car was incorrectly seized, but instead of giving him back his car GMP insisted Mr Booth pay an amount he didn't have and that grew by £12 per day. AFAICT, Mr Booth still hasn't been compensated - well over a year after the event.

Geoff