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19/9/2014 at 11:56am
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Quote: Originally posted by neil and lena on 18/9/2014
Quote: Originally posted by Nosaj on 18/9/2014

Egbert I feel your pain we are in a very similar position. We did own a very old MH in the past for a short while.

We had to change our car recently so bought a car that could tow and we were adamant that we would get a caravan but now we have veered back to maybe getting a MH

For us towing is a possible deal breaker, but cost would be the deal breaker for owning a MH. A 10k Van would be considerably better than a 10k Motorhome, then we started thinking long term. Say we wanted a really decent tow car such as a Disco a low mileage one will set us back around 25k to tow a nice twin axle van that say cost 17k. Thats 42k and in very decent MH territory.

(Edit: take out 6k for a small car and thats still 36k and still in decent MH territory although agreed you can get a 3k car and a 2k caravan but you can also get a 5k motorhome)

Our car use each week is pretty much the school run and other short runs doing that in a Disco would be overkill and we do not live in Chelsea, we could get away with a fiat 500. With the extra cost of running a Disco vs the cost of running a fiat 500 we could pay the extra MOT/servicing etc that comes with the MH or hire a car for a week when on holiday.

Our time away will be mainly weekends/rallies but we may have a longer holiday but we don't like being confined to one site for two weeks. I would be very reticent to go abroad with a Caravan but wouldn't hesitate or worry to do it in a MH.

A big pro for us as we have two kids is turn up, handrake on, beer/wine out.

It probably does not help much but only you can answer the MH vs Caravan question both have pros both have cons and if you are anything like us you will know in detail what each pro and con is but your own personal situation is unique to you.



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Another one who is hesitant to to tow abroad , what makes you think it will be any easier with a motorhome .
Driving in Europe is far less stressfull than the Uk .
There is nothing hard about it , the M25 is far worse


Well the short answer for me is the not towing anything behind me part would make me think its easier in a MH.

But that does stem from a hesitancy to tow in general more than a fear of doing it abroad. I would be just as hesitant getting on a ferry to the Isle of Wight.



19/9/2014 at 12:03pm
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Quote: Originally posted by chelseafc on 19/9/2014

After 5 months away and driving all over, you can always spot the MH folks standing outside campsite waiting for a bus.....as we drive into town. Or as a cpl "asked" at one site...can we bum a lift. Oh and dont miss that bus as the next one is in 2 hrs time, miss the last bus back, at 8 pm, then what.

I minute to pack it all away, yeh right. And when you arrive back late at night, unpack again/re hook up.....sure.

But the great thing about a MH is you can save a few quid by parking in Aires....and to use on buses you'll need.

Oh and driving/towing I averaged 30 mpg BUT without the caravan, it was 50! Thereby we stopped at ACSI campsites 1/2 hr out of towns in beautiful countryside vistas and it cost maybe 5/6 euros worth of diesel to drive and park, as opposed to 3/4 euros EACH, both ways to bus.

To sum it up, ioho, we noticed that MH folks stayed put at a campsite far more than caravaners did.

Choice is yours, explore or read a book under  your awning.



Must admit I agree the not having a car when you get on site is a big downside with the MH.

My dealbreakers:

Caravan: you have to tow it

Motorhome: initial cost and extra creatvity required for travelling once on site.

Tent: Too cold

Looks like I'm going on a package holiday to Benidorm



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One can assume then that those taking buses were doing by choice because if you can afford to run a motorhome then you can afford to run a car/caravan. Some folk enjoy taking buses into town abroad particularly with the local nutter car drivers in Spain etc & dodgy parking in town centres with metal street furniture everywhere. Notice the local's cars are all full of dents? & one can also cycle of course.

All that really matters is that one makes the choice that is right for themselves. Anybody who finds staying put on a campsite boring should try naturist camping, works for me.

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19/9/2014 at 1:47pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Wendyhouse on 19/9/2014
Oh well, it appears that over the last 15 years of motorhoming around UK & Europe I have been doing it all wrong.
Apparently I should take a long time to get going and should have been hanging around bus stops and staying long term on campsites.
Never mind, not too late to learn.


Probably. How do you get into towns etc when your campsite is a few miles outside and in a rural area?  As the vast majority are. You cant unless you pack it all away.

Thats why you have to find a campsite closer to towns/cities etc.

Awning, electrics/water etc OH and hope all the tables and chairs are still there when you get back and it didnt rain. We have had a huge American RV, a campervan and now a caravan. Tow car was 9k, the caravan 5k. Towing in Spain was a dream as was France...Germany etc, only Italy was a PITA.



19/9/2014 at 2:55pm
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Have tried to answer the OP original question, however one poster, who has never met me nor has idea how I use the motorhome, has decided that not only am I lying but then proceeds to tell me where and how I camp.
Well good luck old son, the thread is all yours.


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19/9/2014 at 4:03pm
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Wendyhouse don`t worry what others think, I have just returned from N Yorks and visited Staithes what a lovely place/area one question I must ask is how do you get your motorhome up that hill its a bit steep and narrow, great meal in the pub.

Keith


19/9/2014 at 5:01pm
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Of all the units we have had in our 40 odd years of camping, it is our wildcamping trips in our motorhome that left us with thee most memorable scenes.

Nowadays we are confined to caravan parks and while we tend to seek out smaller and more scenic 5 van sites, if we were younger and fitter, we would still have a MH and we would still be looking for wild places.

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19/9/2014 at 5:54pm
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Another thought in favour of caravans is that invariably the first internal layout one chooses proves not to be ideal and one ends up hankering after a different van. No doubt this is true for motorhomes too, but it is certainly less costly to exchange a caravan than it is to exchange a motorhome.


19/9/2014 at 10:19pm
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We are all individuals, and have different needs and wants. Sometimes our needs change as time goes on for many different reasons. Our needs are different now than they were when we had young children, and they were different then to before we had children. Our first holiday as a couple was in a camper-van borrowed from a friend. It was great fun at the time, but it would have been no good when we had 3 children, and we couldn't be doing with making beds up every night or living in such a small space now that we have retired.

We have also had a tent and enjoyed that at the time, but decided it wasn't ideal when our first child was born, so we opted for a caravan. After many years of boating, we have returned to caravanning, because it suits us as we are now. The point I am making is that there is no perfect answer. Not even for the same family. People are all different, and we all change our priorities as we get older.

On the question of using buses, obviously we have a car with our caravan, but it doesn't stop us using buses and trains to get around when we feel like it. After all, we now get free travel on buses because of our age, and we get free travel on trains because I am a retired train driver. I have also driven buses and coaches, so sometimes I just want to let someone else do the driving.

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20/9/2014 at 12:34pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 17/9/2014
It is indeed, weegmack. After many years away from caravanning, we are now enjoying it once again. Although ours is a very old 'van, it suits us just fine, and it seems highly sophisticated after our last one which had only gas lights and no running water when we bought it.



That brought back memories! When I was a very wee girl, we had a Ci Sprite (I think). It was honestly like a knitted caravan! I remember the gas lights. But we didn't have that for long - but good memories

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22/9/2014 at 6:07pm
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There are many sites and locations that do not cater for caravans but will accept campervans. For me that is the main benefit of the campervan.
My own preference is the multi purpose VW Caravelle towing a pop top caravan. Plenty of room in the caravan when parked and the VW can get anywhere a towcar can, carrying sports equipment, bikes or in our case a tandem. Plus the pop top goes under the 2 meter barriers in car parks, and on the French Peages only gets charged as a car. Top!

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We had Sprites in the past weegmack, first a Sprite Alpine c.1963 or so. We had that from around 1976 to 1980 I think, then we traded it for a 1966 Musketeer. Both had gas lights and no running water, but I updated them with 12 volt lighting and water. Only cold though. For hot water we boiled a kettle. All good fun! Our tow-car for both was a 1966 Ford Cortina Mk2, which always got us wherever we wanted to go.

The Musketeer got stolen from outside our flat in 1979. It wasn't insured at the time, but it wasn't worth much anyway. It was more the inconvenience of not having it, but by then we had bought an old boat and enjoyed some holidays in that on the river.

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We looked at doing local shopping when we go with the Mercedes and trailer next year, it's too big to get into many supermarket car parks, so we'll probably get a little scooter or Honda C90 to run into town when we need to.

The larger supermarkets are surprisingly restrictive on access for non-car traffic, probably the same as we are over here with Travellers.

Leclerc supermarket outside Toul is 3.1 metres height restriction, I think the Mercedes is 2.9 and the trailer a bit less, so that's OK, but if our son wants to go off with the Mercedes and leave us with the trailer, we are self sufficient, just need food and wine.

Towing in France this year was no trouble at all, I'd recommend it as a good place for a new tugger to try.

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Wish I could decide to go down motor home route but your not selling it to me yet, downsides to caravanning or M Homing I think.......................


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I have the use of both and there are pros and cons for both.
It actually costs me less to insure the motorhome than the caravan and I get more MPG from it than when I tow the caravan with my car.
I can pack up in very little time with the motorhome and have no difficulty shopping,you tend to plan further ahead and don't make unnecessary trips for the odd pint of milk.
I have a wind out awning which takes minutes and don't have the inconvenience of packing a wet awning or fresh and waste water containers to pack up.The table and chairs just go straight inside for travelling and are taken out on arrival.It really isn't a problem leaving site to go shopping or sightseeing.
Another plus for me is that I am not continually driving backwards and forwards to the same site,I actually do far less miles in the motorhome than I do with the car /van combo.I plan my trip to minimise the driving and if I come across a place I like I can stay for as long or as little as I want.
The caravan is roomier and I tend to use it if I stay in an area for a longer time.
For me the motorhome is better for use in mainland Europe, where they are far more motorhome friendly, and the caravan for the UK.
Returning from france this week it was noticeable that motorhomes outnumbered car/vans by a large proportion ,there were only 6 caravans as opposed to in excess of 50 motorhomes.
saxo1


27/9/2014 at 11:55am
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Quote: Originally posted by cliffystephens on 27/9/2014
Wish I could decide to go down motor home route but your not selling it to me yet, downsides to caravanning or M Homing I think.......................



As Saxo 1 says, although both types can be used in the same ways, overall they tend to be used for different types of holidays.
Hence you will find areas where a caravan is more prevalent than a motorhome and visa versa.

When we toured the Outer Hebrides that is an area where motorhomes and wildcamping are the norm.
Our caravan was ideally suited for this but not many people would use a van this small.



So for touring about, wild camping and generally covering a large area on a trip, then the motorhome wins hands down.

For going to one area and then exploring around that area within say 20 miles of the campsite, then the caravan is the way to go.

We used to enjoy the long tours in both our motorhomes and our pop top van, but these days we have moved over to the base camp and explore practicalities of a caravan.   


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