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07/9/2015 at 9:21am
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It sounds like yours is rather a lemon. You should get far better mpg than that.
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07/9/2015 at 1:46pm
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free at last
looks like Enotgib and i both have Mitsubishi outlander GX4 lemons.
this is unfortunately the world of being poor and buying second hand motors. if i were rich like you guys i would have been back to the dealers and demanded my rights quoting the sale of goods act. i also have a sh*t second hand Bailey carravan having damp repaired again. i should thank my lucky stars the dealer is doing it and not washed his hands of the problem or gone bust.
however my neighbors bought their Antara brand new, they tell me never hit 40mpg around town or commuting, the cluch/gearbox failed on it on their way home from holiday recently but at least it will be repaired under warranty.
i just think the MPG i get is the way it is with that car.i have not received any contrary information from another outlander owner. only F-A-L with his smaller and lighter ASX.
i just drove to buy a sandwich and it was showing 44.6mpg with a cold engine. and i am sure if i drove 100 miles at 55mph slipstreaming an HGV i would see higher, i just dont have time to do that.
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07/9/2015 at 5:44pm
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Just filled my ASX up after 400 miles of mostly town driving. 44mpg.
Smaller and lighter???? Barely, and not enough to make much difference to consumption.
kerb weight Outlander GX4: 1595kg
kerb weight ASX 4: 1540kg
width Outlander: 1810mm
width ASX: 1810mm
length Outlander: 4695mm
length ASX: 4295mm
wheelbase:same for both
I wasn't the one going on about sale of goods act or making comments about buying new or second hand, just pointing out that that did not apply in this case.
Check out the Honest John website, they suggest real world figures of 39.8mpg.
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/mitsubishi/outlander-2012
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07/9/2015 at 6:19pm
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You are looking at the newer outlander, told you I was poor. :o)
Mine is kerb weight: 1755 full 4wd spec.
Length:4665
Width:1800.
Honest john says 36mpg in the real world.
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/mitsubishi/outlander-2007/?section=data
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08/9/2015 at 10:00am
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Quote: Originally posted by Baileyjake on 07/9/2015
You are looking at the newer outlander, told you I was poor. :o)
Mine is kerb weight: 1755 full 4wd spec.
Length:4665
Width:1800.
Honest john says 36mpg in the real world.
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/mitsubishi/outlander-2007/?section=data
OK Sorry.
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08/9/2015 at 1:35pm
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hey Enotgib
i was considering a remap, for additional power and torque.
the 14N4 in my GX4 can be tuned to +100NM torque and +80BHP.
i have been quoted by a couple of local 'experts' prices ranging from £175 to £380
the highest price was due to the 'experts' stating they would need to remove the ECU to access the mapping as its a coded ECU.
others were not sure if they could do it via the OBD port.
as you say your outlander may have a ford engine but did the people who remapped your car need to remove the ECU and charge labour to do it?
i would be interested to hear about Chipsexpress but they supply a module that plugs in dont they?
i am sceptical of these as some just modify the fuel rail pressure, by fooling the ECU into reading a lower pressure. rather than changing the injector pulse duration in the stored look up table.
this certainly is not worth the amount Chips express want £300 or more.
and cant give the gains of a proper look up table remap.
(i know a bit about engine mapping from my motorbikes)
anyway i am interested to know what chips express propose
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25/1/2016 at 8:12pm
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Blowen123,
I also have a 11 plate gx4, will be interested in your comments about the suspension upgrade and the remapping.
I tow a Sterling Eccles at the moment, with no issues, but will be upgrading to a bigger, heavier van , max weight 1520kg, still happy the Outlander will be fine.
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25/1/2016 at 10:55pm
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hi Blowen and Carlwaynie.
I still have my GX4 and still rarely see more than 40 mpg.
however i think with the AWD system it handles really well on muddy, wet and greasy roads in that respect i am very pleased with it.
i fitted the MAD suspension spring assitors because with a modest nose weight (65kg) the outlander was dragging its arse on the road.
with the assistors i can run with a nose weight of 85kg and the rear end still drops but at least it looks healthy. i found towing with a heavier nose is far more comfortable with a single axle caravan. it was so bouncy with 65kg on the nose i could still feel it sat in a deck chair an hour after arriving on site.
what i did find though is that solo the car now sits level with equal clearances between the wheels and the arches front and back. i do find though it does effect the handling solo. the car is a pit more bouncy on back lanes or rutted road surfaces. i think the MAD springs are worth fitting.
i am interested to find out how Blowen got on with the remap. i am poised to get mine done. and like Carlwaynie i am trading up to a 1600kg van soon. my current van is 300kg lighter so some additional torque would not go amiss.
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26/1/2016 at 9:15am
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Baileyjake,
You say you have fitted the MAD suspension, is it necessary on the outlander that is a 7 seater car?
Did you get a garage to supply and fit? And how much did this cost, if you don't mind me asking, the only reason I ask is I may get the MAD. suspension done on mine before I get the new van
Cheers
Carl
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26/1/2016 at 10:38am
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Hi Carlwaynie
I bought the MAD suspension kit directly from the MAD suspension agent in Tewkesbury. I fitted the kit myself. Took me a couple of hours on the driveway with jack, spring compressors sockets torque wrench etc. The kit cost £120.
Yes the outlander is a 7 seater but the rear suspension is a known weakness. Look at the outlander forums and even people who don't tow complain about the sagging rear end. At least the springs don't break.,my wife's zafira had broken rear springs but it only came up after a service. The ride height didn't change. The springs broke close to one end. Also the outlanders 3rd row seats are not full time seats, more of a deck chair type structure for small children to sit it.
When I investigated the MAD kits I looked at heavy duty springs as these would be cheaper than the MAD kits. Problem was how heavy duty is heavy duty? The MAD springs sit inside the regular coil springs. They are progressively wound so that the more they are compressed the stiffer they become.
As I said I can detect that the MAD springs are there solo but everything looks right when towing.
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26/1/2016 at 11:57am
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Thanks Baileyjake,
I look into changing the springs.
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27/1/2016 at 5:51pm
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I am surprised at this. I assume because your Outlander still had warranty on it, that its under 3 years old.
We have 2 ASX, both 4wd autos, the same 2.3l engine/drive train as the Outlander, and just 200kg lighter, yet both cars rarely give less than 42-45 round town, and will give 50 on a long run at a steady 70 ish. Even towing we always get over 30. All my MPG figures are based on brim fills not the computer.
We recently traded in our 5 year old ASX, (that always gave similar mpg figures) and the resale figure with 40,000 on the clock was 55% of the purchase price, plus an extra grand off the new car.
We don't have a problem with rear springs either, there is very little sag. Recently I bought a load of sand and cement, and with the multibuy offers I ended up with 400kg in the boot. Well overloaded I'm sure, but not too long a drive! Even then there was still some give in the suspension, though the mirrors did need adjusting.
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27/1/2016 at 6:36pm
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Quote: Originally posted by freeatlast on 27/1/2016I am surprised at this. I assume because your Outlander still had warranty on it, that its under 3 years old.
We have 2 ASX, both 4wd autos, the same 2.3l engine/drive train as the Outlander, and just 200kg lighter, yet both cars rarely give less than 42-45 round town, and will give 50 on a long run at a steady 70 ish. Even towing we always get over 30. All my MPG figures are based on brim fills not the computer.
We recently traded in our 5 year old ASX, (that always gave similar mpg figures) and the resale figure with 40,000 on the clock was 55% of the purchase price, plus an extra grand off the new car.
We don't have a problem with rear springs either, there is very little sag. Recently I bought a load of sand and cement, and with the multibuy offers I ended up with 400kg in the boot. Well overloaded I'm sure, but not too long a drive! Even then there was still some give in the suspension, though the mirrors did need adjusting.
I mentioned the ASX figures to the guy at my local mitsubishi dealers. His response was that the 2 can't be compared as they are "totally different cars". He also said that he drove to South of France on the peage in a borrowed outlander and got 39mpg average. And he thought that was good. I couldn't entertain an ASX or an X-trail now since I am trading up to a 1600 kg van this year. To be honest the distance I drive to work and the fact diesel is now 99p/L I am not that aggrieved although I would like to say that mitsubishies "intelligent motion" is just a meaningless sticker. Bloke at dealer said it was because the car has auto start stop.....my GX4 doesn't. In hindsight I should have bought an XC90 or parhfinder but hey changing cars costs more money than I want to spend.
Maybe the outlander is so shockingly poor because it's made in a Dutch factory along with peugeots and citroens? Is the 3008 not an ASX though?
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