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PersonGrampian91
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Quote: Originally posted by Mike3003 on 06/1/2018
Get a Tesla and be the saviour of the planet......A game changing no brainier apparently. 😀👍


Get a model 3 and save it even more, over the xmas period i was on youtube and a video caught my attention. It was about the registration figures for the Model 3. Only 2000 had been registered?

As the workforce got first dibs i wonder if that figure was the magic 2000 registrations?

He bit off more than he could chew with the Model 3. Lots of talk about reliability and quality control issues.

To really push this at the price originally quoted it needed to be a basic machine and most likely in partnership with a mainstream manufacturer.

Maybe as a side brand like Lexus was to Toyota?

Its like the hyperloop, a brill idea until you think of the costs and the technical requirements. Create a vacuum tube hundreds of miles long. It doesnt take a scientist to think thats daft.

Missing the points where it would be good. Shorter distances over stable terrain.

Just been on a website where they have found that Tesla have requested that some May 2017 VIN numbers to be re-registered as May 2018 instead.

Chevy Volt anyone?


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You wan't to check out You You Xue vblog on YouTube, he is doing a road trip in his newly acquired Tesla Model 3, and reported that the 310 range was down to less than 150 miles due to the extreme temps of -30DegC in Canada.

Fair doos to the bloke, he made the 2,700 miles from California to Toronto, and now continues his journey untill 12th January.

Odly the car has a UK number plate c/w GB Euro emblem.

He is said to be shipping the car over to the UK sometime this year, apparently what You You Xue is doing is arriving in a town and then folk are paying him $10 for a test drive, only the yanks eh!

I still think the Model 3 will be a game changer when it officially becomes available in the UK come 2019.

The Tesla supercharger infrastructure will be well in place by then.

The only downside that I can see of the Model 3, is that it is a Sedan and not a Hatch Back, and us Brits do go for Hatch Backs.


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By the time our accountant had sorted how to pay for the leccy to charge a Tesla at home we will all be in our graves anyway!
Back to the original question..even though I've enjoyed the responses! Has anyone towed with a new 1.6 turbo petrol? Torque is maxed at 1500rpm so not too bad and considering I used to tow with a 2.0 sierra maybe we're just spoiled having poweful diesels?
When the new tax year arrives my benefit in kind on the mondeo goes up 3% due to tightening of the co2 levels and the extra 1% diesel surcharge, ironically getting a pick up truck would save me £1000 per year in tax but they're not allowed!


Personbessie500
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Sproz is that a 2 seater pick up or 4/5 seat king cab

Bessie



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PersonMike3003
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Yes, I can absolutely confirm that Sproz.

I had L200 double cab pick ups on company lease, and they are classed as commercial vehicles.

I needed that kind of vehicle for the work I did, towing up to 2.5 tonne, off road work with the capability of carrying a lot of kit and up to five people over rough terrain.

I do not know what the tax implication is now for such vehicles since retiring, but for the job I did they were the Canine Genitalia.

What some people cannot get into their head is the fact that there are a significant chunk of vehicle users that need certain vehicles to do the job. Or as with me now, the geography and my hobbies dictate the type of vehicle I have........And I love pick ups, they are such a versatile vehicle.

As I have said when there is an EV that can tow 3.0 tonne over a decent distance and carry a tonne in the back, with 5 people and be able to go anywhere for under £35K and be as robust and reliable as they are now, then I will think of one. But at the moment they are decades away from that.

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Personbessie500
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Ok i can see the saving, i know years ago everyone was getting L200's because the tax was only £500 for the year but that was scrapped to pull it more in line with company cars, although they are still cheaper.

I can't get have a pickup due to the emmisions, funny if you saw my sales yard it's like a bloody building site.

Bessie   


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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/how_toxic_is_your_car_exhaust

yet again misinformation appears to be the winner. some alarming results pf nox levels some we we were made aware of during dieselgate but the old petrol vs middle age diesel comparison is quite surprising.


also co2 levels rising http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42571828.


so perhaps EV is the answer, of course we will never get the pollution figures for miles per kw..........actually we probably will but not until we all have been duped into buying one!


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On thing that had me thinking was a question last night on The Chase.

It was about how much more pollution do you get by using the underground to being in a car.

The answer was 8 times as much .. I was wondering if this was because of the filter systems in cars protecting those inside or was the design or something else sending the emmisions etc down underground and concentrating them down there?


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Latest from the BBC.

I particularly liked the last part in this quote "environmental pressures and consumer confusion"

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The problem as I see it is everyone is scared of buying a new diesel for fear of it being worthless in the very near future.

Bessie


PersonSproz
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It will be interesting when the RDE2 real world emissions testing comes into effect, PHEV cars are great until the battery dies then the emissions are the same as any other car or worse due to the battery weight. The gov need to realise not everyone does short city journeys.
Mike..the commercial pick up BIK is £3250 for 2018 tax year whereas my mondeo will be £7200.


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Quote: Originally posted by bessie500 on 09/1/2018
The problem as I see it is everyone is scared of buying a new diesel for fear of it being worthless in the very near future.

Bessie





Please quantify "very near future".

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Personbessie500
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If you change your car every 3 years as is often the case, that’s the worry, spending 20/30k on something that potentially worthless after 36 months,

we all no cars depreciate and we all try and buy as savvy as we can, a bit like buying a 4ltr petrol car you know full well after 3 years you’re going to take a massive hit compared with a 2 ltr car.

In the past we’ve always known that diesel cars have had a good residual value….who knows now

Bessie


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If you buy cars like I do, depreciation is something you don't have to worry about. You can often get back what you paid, and sometimes more.

It has always amazed me that even though manufacturers make cars that will last 10 or even 20 years, maybe more, people still want to change them after just a couple of years, and lose a packet in the process. Any new car loses a sizable chunk of its value as soon as you drive it out of the showroom. If you have a company car of course, this is irrelevant. You aren't paying.

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This month's Practical caravan magazine has a direct comparison of petrol and diesel VW Tiguans. Spoiler - the performance of both when either towing or driven solo was much the same, but the petrol did 10mpg less. That's a huge difference.

Regarding the OP's question - how much towing versus solo driving are you going to do? If you're going to do a fairly low and mostly urban business mileage, and aren't paying for the fuel yourself, go petrol (or hybrid if that's an option for you). If you're doing a high motorway mileage, a sizeable amount of towing and have to pay for any of your personal fuel, then diesel is still the answer.

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