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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 19/4/2023

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"Car’s max towing weight is 1400kgs caravan max weight is 1500, owner says he’s loaded it to 1400kgs and has a crash, his possessions are spread across the road, are the insurance company going to collect all of them and weigh them or just look at the plate on the caravan look at the cars max tow weight and throw the claim out as it’s been towed above it legal tow limit"

How would the insurance company Know that it was overweight unless they collected all his possessions and weighed them?


Contrary to popular belief, you do not need to take the trailer’s maximum authorised mass (MAM) into consideration).It is the actual weight of your trailer that needs to be taken into account.
saxo1

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Quote: Originally posted by bessie500 on 19/4/2023

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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 19/4/2023

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"Car’s max towing weight is 1400kgs caravan max weight is 1500, owner says he’s loaded it to 1400kgs and has a crash, his possessions are spread across the road, are the insurance company going to collect all of them and weigh them or just look at the plate on the caravan look at the cars max tow weight and throw the claim out as it’s been towed above it legal tow limit"

How would the insurance company Know that it was overweight unless they collected all his possessions and weighed them?


Contrary to popular belief, you do not need to take the trailer’s maximum authorised mass (MAM) into consideration).It is the actual weight of your trailer that needs to be taken into account.
saxo1

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If the mam is of no relevance, why were people being made to take the trailer test a couple of years ago, it would of been very easy for lots of folk that were advised on here to just load to the weights of their license restrictions

I think what is being posted to to vague

Bessie

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Quote: Originally posted by Marcus12 on 21/4/2023

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Well, That was all rather interesting!

I am the one that started the discussion.

It would seem that I was unduly pessimistic, but...

First, the migration over to EV haulage of our caravans is a rich man’s game. The choice of vehicles that can tug an average 1400 MTPLM caravan are few and far between.

Not only that, they are in the high end range of cars.

Second, the range of them and the refill/recharge rate are pretty poor compared to an ICE.

So. Let me take a look at the longest trip I would likely make:

First Hop:
ICE:From East Midlands to South Coast to catch the night-ferry crossing. 200 miles 4 hours total: Fill up at Newhaven.
EV: The same except 2 stops for recharge 5.5 Hours.

Second Hop:
ICE: off the ferry at 5 am French time travel to the middle of France somewhere. 400 Miles one stop to fill up on the motorway, and a few breaks. Arrive about 14:00: overnight at a campsite.
EV: Same except 3-4 stops at 40 mins each arriving at aprox. 17:00

Third Hop:
ICE: The middle of France to Antibes about 350 miles leave 7:30 get to final destination midday after a few stops and a fill up.
EV: The same same except 3 stops probably get there about 4 in the afternoon.

Whilst we are there, I would probably rely on a granny charge overnight if the campsite can sustain the overnight power draw. We tend to be on the camp from 6-7 in the evening and only leave at 11:00 in the morning. So, if we are going out should be plenty of time to charge up from the on-board caravan electrics.

So, to conclude...

It can be done. The travel days are long and arduous anyway, so a few more enforced breaks will not make much difference.

It is the short May-break type holidays that will make the greatest difference. But with a bit of extra planning, it can be done.

Thank you for all of your wisdom and replies. I have learnt a lot from this discourse. I didn't know you can charge a car from a 13amp plug. Just takes a long time.

I probably couldn't afford a new car. Is the battery going to fail on me or lose range on my second-hand EV? What are the resell values? Especially if the battery is knackered.

Still not totally convinced, but I am getting there.

Also, with all of this effort against global warming, When are we going to win the battle?

Will I be ice skating on the Thames again, in my lifetime!! Will we be burning fossil fuels to warm the planet up a bit.

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Quote: Originally posted by Marcus12 on 21/4/2023

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Well, That was all rather interesting!

I am the one that started the discussion.

It would seem that I was unduly pessimistic, but...

First, the migration over to EV haulage of our caravans is a rich man’s game. The choice of vehicles that can tug an average 1400 MTPLM caravan are few and far between.

Not only that, they are in the high end range of cars.

Second, the range of them and the refill/recharge rate are pretty poor compared to an ICE.

So. Let me take a look at the longest trip I would likely make:

First Hop:
ICE:From East Midlands to South Coast to catch the night-ferry crossing. 200 miles 4 hours total: Fill up at Newhaven.
EV: The same except 2 stops for recharge 5.5 Hours.

Second Hop:
ICE: off the ferry at 5 am French time travel to the middle of France somewhere. 400 Miles one stop to fill up on the motorway, and a few breaks. Arrive about 14:00: overnight at a campsite.
EV: Same except 3-4 stops at 40 mins each arriving at aprox. 17:00

Third Hop:
ICE: The middle of France to Antibes about 350 miles leave 7:30 get to final destination midday after a few stops and a fill up.
EV: The same same except 3 stops probably get there about 4 in the afternoon.

Whilst we are there, I would probably rely on a granny charge overnight if the campsite can sustain the overnight power draw. We tend to be on the camp from 6-7 in the evening and only leave at 11:00 in the morning. So, if we are going out should be plenty of time to charge up from the on-board caravan electrics.

So, to conclude...

It can be done. The travel days are long and arduous anyway, so a few more enforced breaks will not make much difference.

It is the short May-break type holidays that will make the greatest difference. But with a bit of extra planning, it can be done.

Thank you for all of your wisdom and replies. I have learnt a lot from this discourse. I didn't know you can charge a car from a 13amp plug. Just takes a long time.

I probably couldn't afford a new car. Is the battery going to fail on me or lose range on my second-hand EV? What are the resell values? Especially if the battery is knackered.

Still not totally convinced, but I am getting there.

Also, with all of this effort against global warming, When are we going to win the battle?

Will I be ice skating on the Thames again, in my lifetime!! Will we be burning fossil fuels to warm the planet up a bit.

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