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07/9/2007 at 10:09pm
Location: East Yorkshire Outfit: Bailey Pegasus 546
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Hi Lemmie
Welcome to the forum
The 12N (Black Plug) is the standard connector for trailers and caravans, and operates the road lights on the caravan and is the minimum needed to tow.
The 12S (Grey Plug) is used in conjunction with the 12N and operates the Fridge (whilst the engine is running) and charges the caravan leisure battery etc.
You should be able to get your local towbar fitter to fit you a 12S for a few quid.
HTH
Paul
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07/9/2007 at 10:23pm
Location: South Wales Outfit: Ace Viceroy
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thanks.
i don't mean to be thick ( although i admit I'm a caravanning virgin ) but does that mean that the grey plug I am trying to connect to my car from the van is the wrong one? or do I need the 12S on my car instead of the 12n or as well as? Is this what they mean by single and double electrics??
is this why there are two sockets on the front towing bit of the van? should I just be able to get a 12n lead and plug it into the other socket to operate the lights?
I hope this makes sense. There's no one local that can give me a hand and although I;m joining the caravan club, I have to tow the van and get it serviced etc. before taking it out and using it. Bit difficult and illegal with no lights!
and while I'm at it, this would imply that my fridge is electric and not gas?
Not very savvy am I?
thanks
lemmie
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07/9/2007 at 10:59pm
Location: East Yorkshire Outfit: Bailey Pegasus 546
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Hi Again
See HERE
It takes a bit of getting your head around. The 12N (black) is the normal plug that would be fitted (single electrics) it has 3 female connectors and 4 male. This in theory is all you need to tow and have legal road lights.
The supplementary Grey 12S (twin electrics) won't plug into the 12N socket, and is fiited to run fridge etc.
Do you have 2 leads with plugs on coming from the caravan? Or has the caravan been fitted with sockets?
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Paul
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07/9/2007 at 11:29pm
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hi. God, you must think me quite dull!
Um, no there only seems to be one grey lead coming from the van. Its the one that definitely won't fit my tow hitch. There are, however, for some reason, two sockets in the front towing bit, with three pin holes ( the grey lead fits into it when the van is standing, so it might be that they are just storage sockets). I don't get it if the grey one is supplementary, why haven't I got a black one?
I will contact the man that fitted my tow hitch tomorrow and confuse him!!! I'm just a wee bit frustrated that I can't go anywhere at the mo.
Sounds like I've got twin electrics coming from the van doesn't it?
So this will power my fridge up whilst I'm towing then?
Do I have to switch the fridge on or put the switches up by the door on car whilst I'm towing or is it an automatic thing?
Why is this so complicated?! I think I need a manual! Its enough to put you off really.
Thanks for your help though.
lemmie
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08/9/2007 at 8:26am
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hi billy
the penny has finally dropped- there should be two leads!!.
I've just been outside and looked all round front of van. I have discovered the black lead, tucked right up under the a frame bit ( which is covered with storage box) and now feel a bit of a twerp because it fits neatly into the socket on my hitch. Tested the lights and wayhey! They're good to go.
I could have pulled her last night then if I had had the sense to have a bit more of an explore under the front end. I could kick myself, although without the 12n fitted I cannot charge fridge or leisure battery.
I will still get grey socket fitted before she goes into storage, although at least I can get her serviced now asap.
many thanks
lemmie
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10/9/2007 at 9:34pm
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hi billy
Thanks for that .
Well, towed her on the weekend and had a great two days! very relaxing and the kids loved it. Hubby and I are definitely hooked now. Our van was the oldest on the site but we didn't care- we have a retro classic!!!
Got the fridge sorted once on site. However, after about six hours it and all the sockets in the van went off, lights stayed on- thank god! I couldn't figure out what had happened altho' I suspected that it was something to do with fuses. What does the 'aux' switch on the panel mean?
I have retrieved fuses and am off to caravan shop to purchase new ones this weekend, the water pump did not work either so I'm going to try a new fuse and see if that sorts it. I gave the external socket that it plugs into a good clean when we got back too but I guess it could still be that the pump is knackered.
However, could it be something else. I couldn't find a trip switch anywhere in the van or an isolator switch. Any tips, can a regular elctrician check the systems out?
thanks
lemmie
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