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22/6/2008 at 7:12pm
 Location: Yorkshire
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What a nightmare!

Set of on Friday afternoon from Bradford heading for Settle (For anyone who knows the area, I decided not to go straight on Canal Road, as you have a sharp left turn at the Shipley T Junction, and then an uphill queue at the Junction pub lights - so I decided to turn left at the Kia garage & then right onto Manningham Lane)

Well what a mistake that was. I didn't realise how heavy the traffic would be at those lights, and ended up queuing for a good 5-10 minutes. 

Obviously I try to avoid holding the car/van on the clutch, but when you are moving forward slowly, as opposed to standing still 7 using the handbrake its really difficult.

ANYWAY....after a few minutes, I could tell that the clutch wasn't happy, as it didn't seem to stop revving even after I took my foot off it altogether - and as for the smell - wow!

The car was playing up so much I had to just pull over on Manningham Lane for a few minutes to wait for the rev counter to drop to normal.

When I press the clutch pedal, it feels "spongy" (only word I can think of!), and when I'm driving without the van on, it feels as though I'm driving with the clutch pressed in a little, which obviously I'm not.

Has anyone had any experience like this, or any clever mechanics got any ideas?

We've been toying with the idea of a 4x4 for a few weeks, but trying to avoid the expense! I've always felt that the Mondeo is a great towing car on the flat/slight hills, but on anything a bit steeper that that it seems to struggle - and as for hill starts - well, here's the evidence!

For the record, the car is a 2005 Mondeo Estate 2.0 16v Ghia, and the van is a 2007 Sprite Major 5 - according to whattowcar.com the cars kerbweight is 1540kg, and the caravans MIRO is 1100kg and MTPLM is 1338kg.

Thanks in advance!



22/6/2008 at 7:13pm
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Oh - and its a petrol model, not diesel!


22/6/2008 at 9:47pm
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 I changed to diesel mondeo from a petrol one because i found  the petrol did not have enough power sometimes even with a light caravan of about 1100kg when fully loaded


23/6/2008 at 12:17am
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I'm stunned to read any Ford clutch is not up to the job, I don't know your car but I've had Fords all my life and never had a slipping clutch problem.

The only car I once needed to change a clutch on was an 85 Escort and that had done 340K before totally worn out it finally went to the scrapyard after the 13 years I'd owned it. That and pulling a 1250kg trailer for many thousands of miles!!


23/6/2008 at 11:45am
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Sound Like new clutch is required, what model year is it? Gary it is not just Ford car that is affected by the Dual mass flywheel. I just have a new clutch fiited on my car it has only done 75000 miles.

Have a look here: http://www.fordmondeo.org/index.php?



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23/6/2008 at 1:27pm
 Location: Worcester
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Hi,

I had exactly the same thing happen to us on our Audi. I was towing our caravan to the dealer for its first service and ended up stop start on a steep hill as someone had broken down at the top. Just made it but the clutch was spongy and there was quite a smell.

A few miles later. we had to pull over as clutch was slipping like crazy. Started off again after around 20 mins and all was well although the smell took a couple of days to disappear.

I'm not sure you need a new clutch though. This happened to us last year and we have towed the caravan several times since including some steep hills and have had no problems.

Good luck and hope this helps

Steve

 

 



23/6/2008 at 6:24pm
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Little update for you all - driving home this afternoon, and the clutch gave in. I did manage to change gear, but only by standing on the clutch pedal with 2 feet & all my body weight behind it!

Hopeing it can be a cheap repair, just until I part ex it!



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If your stuck in slow moving traffic on a hill the best technique is to allow a big gap to build up then move off, rather than try to trickle along with the traffic. Too bad if they are hooting behind.

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23/6/2008 at 9:54pm
 Location: Bury St Edmunds
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I cannot understand why the engine was revving away of its own accord - that's nothing to do with the clutch.

The fact that you had to really stand on the clutch pedal to get it to disengage means there's something else is going on too.  If the clutch plate is worn out it shouldn't take extra pressure to operate it - it'll just slip.  I reckon there might also be a linkage/operating system problem.

 



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23/6/2008 at 10:41pm
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Quote: Originally posted by daviddaw on 23/6/2008

I cannot understand why the engine was revving away of its own accord - that's nothing to do with the clutch.

 


This is a sign that there is problem with the clutch, on dual mass flywheel

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Quote: Originally posted by daviddaw on 23/6/2008

I cannot understand why the engine was revving away of its own accord - that's nothing to do with the clutch.

 


This is a sign that there is problem with the clutch, on dual mass flywheel

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09 Mondeo 2.0 TDCI,07 Senator Virginia
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      5 ~ 11Loose hill C C
      11 ~ 19 Gaer Hyfrid C C


23/6/2008 at 10:42pm
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Quote: Originally posted by daviddaw on 23/6/2008

I cannot understand why the engine was revving away of its own accord - that's nothing to do with the clutch.

 


This is a sympton that there is problem with the clutch, on dual mass flywheel car

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      11 ~ 19 Gaer Hyfrid C C


23/6/2008 at 10:51pm
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Quote: Originally posted by bigsteve on 23/6/2008

Little update for you all - driving home this afternoon, and the clutch gave in. I did manage to change gear, but only by standing on the clutch pedal with 2 feet & all my body weight behind it!

Hopeing it can be a cheap repair, just until I part ex it!


It won't be cheap your are talking around £700 ~ £1000 denpending where you get done. this was the price of genuin ford part

Flywheel assembly £ 236.07

Kit-clutch  £ 146.71

Oil/bolt etc £42.28

+ Labour and vat



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      11 ~ 19 Gaer Hyfrid C C


24/6/2008 at 1:15am
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clutch/dmf and slave cyl required id say.not just a Ford problem either,VAG have it with passats and audis and a few Mazda 6`s (diesels) have suffered as well..had mine replaced at around 85000 miles (£400 all in parts/labour) now coming up to 114000 and touch wood no problems at all, even on hills with 1400 kg on the back



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