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12/6/2009 at 11:23am
Location: Leeds ish Outfit: Bailey Pegasus 546
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I shouldn't worry yourself. Unless you tow like a vandal, and drive like a chav, you will not have problem.
Rely upon your driving and towing expertise and tow sensibly and you will be fine.
As always, lower roadspeed, carefully reading the road and correct packing of the 'van, you will never have a problem. The risk only occurs if you have a lapse of judgement or ? and then you will have no reserve in the outfit to dig you out of the sh*t, but that is your judgement call.
For those who doubt this opinion, take a close look at the HGV and LGV on the road beside you. Most curtain siders do not even secure their load!
Life is made of compromises: choose yours and live within them.
Good luck, it sounds like you're enjoying rough times, I hope things improve for you soon.
Iain
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12/6/2009 at 11:32am
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Strax you are giving very dangerous advice here!
Firstly it would appear his kerbweight is below that of the caravan's weight. He has quoted the car's gross vehicle weight, not its kerbweight, which we believe to be only around 830/840 kg.
Secondly his caravan is currently over its MTPLM
Thirdly he is a post 1997 tower so therefore the van cannot be heavier than the car's kerbweight......
Need I go on?
I'll stand corrected if I have misinterpreted the info.....
Ali
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12/6/2009 at 4:43pm
Location: Fife Outfit: Vango Monte Verde 900 & Orchy 600
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Hi
Haven't towed a caravan for few years but last time I did it was on way to Whitby through a small village with an incredibly steep hill - had to go up it which was an amazing struggle and at one time thought we'd have to get out and push both the car and the van up the hill!! - on the way home it was even more scary as the brakes struggled to keep the van and car slow enough not to be dangerous.
What I'm trying to say is that its one thing to risk something if you know exactly where you are going and what the roads are like - almost suicidal if you dont - even some caravan sites have very steep access roads to get the good coastal views.
No-one who has replied saying go for it seems to have considered this and no mention has been made of safety issues only legal ones, so their encouraging replies should really be seriously considered before getting a tow bar. No mention of how unstable wind can make a van either (I mean the weather wind!!). In any case - camping is just as good and a lot cheaper for petrol!!!
Have fun and stay safe whatever you do.
Fiona
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12/6/2009 at 4:46pm
Location: Blackburn Lancashire Outfit: Coachman Laser 650 and Discovery
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Quote: Originally posted by snowy747 on 12/6/2009
Strax you are giving very dangerous advice here!
Firstly it would appear his kerbweight is below that of the caravan's weight. He has quoted the car's gross vehicle weight, not its kerbweight, which we believe to be only around 830/840 kg.
Secondly his caravan is currently over its MTPLM
Thirdly he is a post 1997 tower so therefore the van cannot be heavier than the car's kerbweight......
Need I go on?
I'll stand corrected if I have misinterpreted the info.....
Ali
Absolutely agree. There may have been a time when that sort of thinking was prevalent, but increased regulation - and hopefully increased awareness - make it a non-starter these days.
With a "new" licence, the caravan cannot be heavier than the kerbweight of the car.
Jim
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16/6/2009 at 9:41pm
Location: Cambridge UK Outfit: Olpro Cocoon 4 or pop-up 1 man tent
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Indeed, thanks for continuing the conversation without me (been ill, meh).
All the information I have for the car itself, including the manual, etc. confirms that the available towing weight is 900kg. This seems to be with just the driver and a full fuel tank, not fully laden (ie. driver + 4 passengers, etc.), hence lowering the available towing weight further.
Although I have not been able to check the caravan itself (being at my brother's at the moment), I have not been able to find the plate in the past, ergo I cannot state the correct MTPLM.
Anyway, the reason I went for this particular car was due to other pressures than just financial, which happens time to time, sadly.
So with a heavy heart it looks like I'll be selling the caravan very shortly (noticed a few posts regarding smaller vans so may be in luck!).
Thanks once again for all your comments and help, and I'll be lurking around in the canvas section from now on
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