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Subject Topic: swift charisma 570, mondeo st tdci estate Post Reply Post New Topic
06/8/2009 at 9:07pm
 Location: None Entered
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hi

we are considering caravanning after many years in a tent. we have the above car and very much like the above caravan. i am 6' , 2" and it seems swift may have a tiny bit more head room. we also like the end bunks for our 2 boys (9 and 12). thing is ive been on whattowcar and i need to reduce the caravan payload from their default 200kgs ( which gives 93%) to 100kg (86%) or 50kg (83%) to get anywhere near the suggested 85%. how practical is it to carry this small a load in the caravan? and how critical is it if you just crept over 85%. i have some trailer towing experience. any other views on this matter would be greatly appreciated

many thanks


06/8/2009 at 9:31pm
 Location:  Whitchurch shrops
 Outfit: Swift conqueror 480
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i dont think you will have a problem with the mondeo estate. they are brilliant but check it out on here.

www.whattowcar.com/

 



07/8/2009 at 9:37am
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There was a thread the other day discussing contents and I think 100 kg was the weight of the basics like waste masters, gas bottles etc so it would essentially mean carrying pretty much everything else in the car.

You haven't posted the figures for your kerbweight, the vans MTPLM etc so hard to judge but the more you go over 85%, the less stable the outfit is likely to be.  Having said that a badly packed lower ratio outfit would be unstable too!

You have to be careful of the car's limits as well, most cars have a 500 kg - 600 kg payload including passengers luggage etc so depending how many of you are going to be in the car, you could be very close to the car's capacity too.

Lots to think about really.

Ali



07/8/2009 at 9:24pm
 Location: south yorkshire - Bo
 Outfit: Swift Fairway 586
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ive got a swift fairway 570 which is the charisma as a dealer special, i first towed it with a 2.0l 130 bhp mondeo   and this matched up about 93% but had no problems what so ever the mondeo is a good tow car

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08/8/2009 at 9:15pm
 Location: By the seaside!
 Outfit: Bailey unicorn. Ford Edge
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 I would check with Ford as i was under the impression that ST's were not suitable as tow cars (something to do with the clutch i read) could be wrong but we did dismiss this model for a 2.2tdci  ghia estate 07 model which tows beautifully except for the front tyre wear.

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08/8/2009 at 9:21pm
 Location: N Yorkshire
 Outfit: Xc60 D5 Abbey Vogue
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you should be fine,seen a few st`s towing.


09/8/2009 at 9:44pm
 Location: Staffs
 Outfit: Swift Challenger 490 SEL & VW Tiguan
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There was an ST155 hatch next to us on Looe CC site. It had towed a big (I reckon 1500 kg MTPLM) caravan.


11/8/2009 at 2:14pm
 Location: West country
 Outfit: Mondeo
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I'm  taller than you at 6'4" and have no problem in our Ranger. They are very light for the size.

Don't forget that the boys will grow very quickly, especially the 12 year old and may soon outgrow the bunks.

Why not try a 5berth double dinnette like the Ranger 500/5. Use the rear bed as a double and the front as two singles. only 1268kg MTPLM.

Also many teenagers, especially boys, like to sleep in a pup tent as ours did. 



11/8/2009 at 2:15pm
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Also look at the Ranger 540/6 at 1306kg. Thats fixed bunks as well.


14/8/2009 at 12:13pm
 Location: Wigan Pier. Lancashire
 Outfit: Trackie bottoms and a T shirt.
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The is ST TDci is type approved for towing.

The ST petrol versions Eg ST 220 and the older ST200 are not type approved.

Having said that I'm sure some people have fitted towbars from the standard cars to them. Not sure how that affects insurance etc.

The Puma isn't type approved either and no one makes a tow bar for them but I've seen one with a towbar on. As its a Fiesta floorpan I'll bet the fiesta one fits but I'd like to know the implications of towing with a non approved car.




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