has anyone used the cycle holders that sit in your caravan,ive seen them in a magazine and they look like a good idea .It's a frame that you put the wheels in and strap them together ,saves puting them on the back of your car .
I have never used them but have seen lots used in france especially by the dutch. I would worry about stability though, not good to have extra weight on the back of the van and if on the front the noseweight will increase, also you are reducing the payload.
Its ok to put a bike on the back of a caravan provided there are fixing points, I have seen them on Adrias so I would guess yours has them but take advice before having one fitted obviously.
I was talking to a Dutch caravanner about rear bike racks & he was saying opinion is divided about them in Holland. Holland has a 90k(56mph)speed limit for caravans only recently raised from 80k & provided you stick those sort of speeds(he reckoned)you are ok, but not at the sort of(illegal)motorway speeds that some UK caravanners drive at.
If you have a longish front A frame with no cover you can also fit a front bike rack, I don't know how you would get your noseweight correct but these are popular with Dutch/German caravanners as well.
We've got one...I can't remember what it's called, but it works very well. You just sit one wheel of each bike into it, bungee the wheels together and they sit there without moving until you reach journies end. You can put a little padding either side to make sure that the bikes don't move, but I've not have any problem. Position the bicycles over the caravan axle and you have no problem with nose weight.
The carrier is very light and although it's a very simple idea it works perfectly.
So they go IN the van, never seen those, however if over the axle and secured properly I cannot see an issue as long as the total van weight is still ok.
We've always packed fairly light as never been a family for all the gadgets, so don't have a problem with the bikes in the van. There are pro's and con's, but I've certainly found more advantages to them being in the van.
Roof mounted rack can cause drag
Towball rack adds to nose weight
Quicker and easier to load than a hatch mounted rack
Generally more secure for rest stops
Bikes don't weigh a ton and if loaded right they survive the journey very well. The lightweight rack mentioned works a treat and I've never had any van damage from the bikes in the van.
The ply is a foot wide and the length is just enough to fit between the bed bases. The bottom and ends are covered in scrap carpet. The brackets are placed staggered to enable handlebars to "nest"; I also just slacken the handlebars to best "nest" them and keep the width down.
Carrying the bikes in the van is fine as long as you don't want to take them further afield. i.e you want to take the bikes to somewhere further than is practical by cycling alone. In which case you would need a bike rack on the car anyway.
Not sure that makes sense but hopefully you get my point
JTQO, that looks a brill idea and would obviously lower the bikes weight for transport too - thanks for the link.
Knightwarrior, your quite right (you explained perfectly). Certainly we, and most folk I come across, pack the bikes for convenience when away however I keep a pretty good lightweight rack hidden away in the van for just your type of occassions.