Home

   Log in or Register



Insurance Quotes
forums Campsite Search Comp Directory tips virtual brochure Profile
Tent and Awning Reviews Competitions Caravans and Motorhomes For Sale Shopping Diary Advent Calendar

Advertisement

Message Forums
Welcome Guest Register Login Search The Forum Posts Since Last Visit
 Reception - All Forums
   Caravans and Caravanning -  Caravan Towcars and Towing Advice 		Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email  Printer Friendly Version Print
Subject Topic: white or grey plugs Post Reply Post New Topic
Personchaplin44
17/5/2010 at 4:32pm
 Location: bury
 Outfit: giest xk630 View chaplin44's Profile View Profile   Reply to chaplin44 Reply   Quote chaplin44 Quote  
Joined: 15/5/2010

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   2
Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0
 we have abit of wee problem the white plug on our giest xk 630 has melted  from the middle pin out wards  but being a german van the  coulors are diffrent  from a uk van can any one help


PersonJTQU
17/5/2010 at 4:53pm
 Location: Hampshire
 Outfit: Hymer Nova S View JTQU's Profile View Profile   Reply to JTQU Reply   Quote JTQU Quote  
Joined: 01/11/2005

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   2189
Site Reviews Total: 6
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 1  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 1
But the pin positions and what they do are identical.
So take a digital photo so you know what colour goes where and rewire the replacement plug exactly the same way.

And with the new plug dont wiggle it to align it or when you remove it or you will soon be back to square one. A slack centre pin making poor contact and burning. Simply push it in and pull it out straight. You are also quite likely to have to renew the car socket as that will also have seen too much heat.


PersonOpensauce
17/5/2010 at 5:32pm
 Location: 
 Outfit:  View Opensauce's Profile View Profile   Reply to Opensauce Reply   Quote Opensauce Quote  
Joined: 25/1/2010

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   4530
Site Reviews Total: 13
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0
You need to find out what made it melt. I'm guessing the fridge wire is too thin. Unless you want to change the whole cable for thicker wiring don't run your fridge on 12v while driving. The 12n/12s system was never used in Germany, yours has oviously been built for the UK market but the German factory has used incorrect(ie too thin) wiring, hence the wrong colours.

The real solution is to have the complete grey cable changed for correct spec, even if the van is out of warranty the supplying dealer should do this for you foc.


PersonJTQU
17/5/2010 at 7:24pm
 Location: Hampshire
 Outfit: Hymer Nova S View JTQU's Profile View Profile   Reply to JTQU Reply   Quote JTQU Quote  
Joined: 01/11/2005

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   2189
Site Reviews Total: 6
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 1  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 1
Quote: Originally posted by Tentz on 17/5/2010You need to find out what made it melt.
The usual cause is as I hinted above and is physical loosening of the pin that unfortunately carries a significant current.
The centre pin on the grey socket can serve as a "centring" device and some people wiggle it to couple and even uncouple the socket. Thus you find the pin closes up and becomes loose; this then has a serious detrimental effect trying to pass the 7 plus amps near continuously taken to power the fridge. So it heats up often burning the locating plates and wire insulation on both the plug and socket.

If your more disciplined in making and breaking this connection it will prove "adequate" however it is possible to twin this pin with a spare. I have seen this done but its not something I have found a need to do.

Whilst the Giest was constructed by a German company it was a UK company design specifically for the UK and Australian market, hence it having 12S&N sockets as standard.


PersonOpensauce
17/5/2010 at 8:14pm
 Location: 
 Outfit:  View Opensauce's Profile View Profile   Reply to Opensauce Reply   Quote Opensauce Quote  
Joined: 25/1/2010

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   4530
Site Reviews Total: 13
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0
Quote: Originally posted by JTQU on 17/5/2010
Whilst the Giest was constructed by a German company it was a UK company design specifically for the UK and Australian market, hence it having 12S&N sockets as standard.

Well quite & the op states the colours on the 12s cable are non standard which suggests the wires could also be too thin for amount of current carried, so worth checking out.



Advertisement



AndyandLynda
18/5/2010 at 3:34pm
 Location: 
 Outfit:  View AndyandLynda's Profile View Profile   Reply to AndyandLynda Reply   Quote AndyandLynda Quote  
Joined: 21/12/2006

Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Forum Posts:   809
Site Reviews Total: 3
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

When we first got our Avondale the grey plug was getting hot and eventually melted.Read somewhere to check the the earth wires from the fridge and charging curcuits were not connected together on the car,mine were so i have seperated them and had no trouble since.

Andy


Personcorrakid
18/5/2010 at 9:49pm
 Location: north shropshire
 Outfit: Elddis Riviera Kia Ceed SW3 Auto View corrakid's Profile View Profile   Reply to corrakid Reply   Quote corrakid Quote  
Joined: 24/2/2005

Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Forum Posts:   564
Site Reviews Total: 2
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

 

 I had the same problem no7 pin getting hot and melting the plastic, so what i did on the male caravan plug was connect pin 6 and pin 2 that gives you 2 live feeds and connect pin 7 and pin 5 and that gives you 2 earths, had no problem since, the only thing is when it goes for service you must tell them how you have it wired, or it will blow the fuse on the box of tricks they use to check your electrics with.



In order to post a reply you will need to register, or if already registered please log in here

Prev       Next
Quick Links - All Forums - Caravan Towcars and Towing Advice - Top of Page

Printer Friendly Version Printable version      Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email


Latest News, Discounts and Competitions  see all...

6183 Visitors online !

Free UKCampsite.co.uk Window Sticker  -  Recommend to Friend  -  Add a Missing Campsite

[Message Forums]  [Caravan Sites & Camping]  [Company Listings]  [Features / Advice]  [Virtual Brochure]  [Shop!]
[Reception]  [Competitions]  [Caravans & Motorhomes For Sale]  [Event Diary]  [Contact Us]  [Tent Reviews] 



Please note we are not responsible for the content of external sites & any reviews represent the author's personal view only. Please report any error here. You may view our privacy and cookie policy and terms and conditions here. All copyrights & other intellectual property rights in the design and content of this web site are reserved to the UKCampsite.co.uk © 1999 - 2024


Advertisement
Advertisement


UKCampsite.co.uk
2024 Advent Calendar

Advent Calendar

24 Daily Prizes PLUS a Christmas Day Star Prize worth £999

Request a Reminder