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Subject Topic: 12N & S - a tale of woe Post Reply Post New Topic
10/8/2010 at 5:10pm
 Location: Lancashire
 Outfit: Nissan X-Trail & Bailey Ranger
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Had a bit of "brainwave" at the weekend and decided to change the rather heavily corroded metal plate that secures the 12N & S sockets to the towbar. I should have realised that the sockets would be just as corroded. I had to drill out the screws that hold the sockets to the plate, then virtually smash the sockets themselves to get at the screws that secure the wires.

Once I'd got that far, all I had to do was undo the rusty electrical screws ... and that's when the screwdriver slipped and went straight into the palm of my hand!

The upshot was that yesterday I decided to abandon finishing the job myself and took the car to a professional, who fitted new sockets, a new fixing plate, a new bumper protector plate and charged me just £35 for the whole lot. As Halfords wanted upwards of £9 per socket, that's a bargain, especially as when on testing the 12S it turned out that the live feed for the fridge wasn't working, and probably hadn't been working for a long time, as the original fitter hadn't fused it!

So, the moral is - DIY is a pain, and getting your towing rig tested regularly is a really good idea.

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To be honest, if you even considered getting the sockets from Halfrauds, you probably shouldn't have tackled the job in the first place.

I personally would have left the sockets on the plate and just cut the wires off as close as possible. The ends of the wires were probably corroded anyway and there is virtually no chance of undoing the terminal screws.

With the wires cut off, the sockets and plate can be discarded as one lump.


10/8/2010 at 5:43pm
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Quote: Originally posted by LegsDownKettleOn on 10/8/2010To be honest, if you even considered getting the sockets from Halfrauds, you probably shouldn't have tackled the job in the first place.



Only supplier close to me open late on a Saturday afternoon. It's true though that their prices are outrageous.
And yes, I now know what to do in future. And so do others reading this thread.

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10/8/2010 at 9:06pm
 Location: West Lothian
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I still prefer to have a go...  I replaced my S&N for 13 pin euro and it was a peice of cake.

Got the parts for £3 from ebay, diagram off the net and after about 30 mins of fiddling and using angle grinder to remove rusty old 7 pin sockets, quick test with volt meter first and then the van, hey presto the job was done.

Although I found it fairly easy it can be tricky getting all the cables into a 13 pin euro socket.  Not sure I would recommend it to everyone unless you are confident with DIY.  Sounds like you got it at a decent price I was quoted £60 for my change.

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11/8/2010 at 4:26pm
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Hi

just had a new 13 pin socket fitted to car plugged up to caravan and the fridge wont work wondered if you might have the wiring order for the caravan plug in case i have made a mistake

many thanks

 

 



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11/8/2010 at 8:05pm
 Location: Midlands
 Outfit: Mondeo Avondale Gram
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Did you try increasing the revs on the car, It will only run the fridge charge the caravan battery if the car battery voltage it above a set limit and being charged.

Tickover speed might not be enough.



12/8/2010 at 7:12am
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go here for the 13 pin diagram.........http://www.western-towing.co.uk/acatalog/Caravan_13pin_Wiring_Diagram.html


12/8/2010 at 7:13am
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Quote: Originally posted by angvad on 11/8/2010

Hi

just had a new 13 pin socket fitted to car plugged up to caravan and the fridge wont work wondered if you might have the wiring order for the caravan plug in case i have made a mistake

many thanks

http://www.western-towing.co.uk/acatalog/Caravan_13pin_Wiring_Diagram.html

 




13/8/2010 at 8:36am
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Hi

thanks for the help

all working fine now

many thanks again




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