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28/8/2010 at 11:38pm
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do any of you out there tow using LPG, ive only just sorted out the running of the LPG system. has anyone had any problem with it, slow sluggish or pop back ?

running in a shogun 3L v6

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Both of our previous Campervans were LPG and we towed classic cars with them. We had no problems whatsoever.

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'do any of you out there tow using LPG, ive only just sorted out the running of the LPG system.'

I have been toying with the idea of having my renault clio converted to lpg, but have wondered whether I would be opening a can of worms regarding teething troubles etc.  Have you had many problems and which system is it?



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Ford seem to be doing very well with their LPG cars in the British Touring Cars. In theory it is good, suspect the setting up is what causes the problems.


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GM had problems with some dual-fuel vehicles some time ago AFAIR, eg high speed/high miles, the valves didn't like it. A couple of our drivers who do up to 100k miles per year had valves burn out; one in a Transit van, the other in a Vauxhall Combo. The vans were both '02-ish age. Possibly these problems have been overcome but one never knows.


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brianconwy, im not sure what system it is yet, ive not been able to use it until friday would pop back with a loud bang and cut out, since fitting new ht leed(touch wood) no problems, but were off on the 21st and if the LPG is no good towing we might have to stop for fuel alot with only a 30L fuel tank,

Wish i had a touring car to tow with, dont think the OH would like taking the bus though.

think il get the van out for a drive about before we go.

thanks for relplys.

mike



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Bear in mind that if you are away and cannot find an lpg station you may have to cover hundreds of miles on petrol and thus doubling your fuel costs.


29/8/2010 at 7:50pm
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We have troured all over Scotland, England and Ireland on LPG and we have never had to drive more than 20 miles on petrol before getting to our next LPG Station.

Okay, we were in Campervans and we had planned our routes with LPG stations in mind, but that was all a few years back and I am sure that by now there will be many more fueling points around.

Our Campervans, a 2lt Ford Transit Advantura and a 2.4lt Bedford Pioneer both had straight forward LPG units with an 80lt fuel tank.

My only LPG car was an Audi Sport and that LPG unit had a gas engine management system. This was very complicated to set up but when good the car "went like stink".  



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ive got a list of LPG stations accross the uk that the nice man gave me when i got the car, might be a few years old but at least i know my rough distance to go on petrol.

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29/8/2010 at 8:59pm
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http://www.lpgmap.co.uk/

http://www.drivelpg.co.uk/map/index.php

http://www.autogas.ltd.uk/whereToBuyMap.htm

Different supliers of LPG have different websites listing their fuel stations.

You really need to search a few websites before doing a tour. Often you will find an LPG fuel point actually in an Industrial Estate where it is situated in a Yard storing LPG Cylinders.  

In Ireland, every second cottage seemed to be an LPG Fuel point!!!



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I used to have a map from the lpga that supposedly showed all the filling stations. What it didn't do was give opening times. When you are coming home on a Sunday afternoon with a caravan on the back, traipsing through strange villages to find a filling station that is closed is not much fun. I also downloaded the pois for tomtom.

Unfortunately, leaving Somerset I searched for the nearest lpg station only to be told it was 15 miles away in Cardiff.
Now Cardiff may have been 15miles away, but I for onw was not too happy about towing straight across the Bristol Channel.

A lot of lpg stations seem to be here today and gone tomorrow too, also the maps show stations that have never sold lpg (or so the owner of the esso station in Southampton told me when I asked him where his lpg pump was)

Prices of LPG vary massively too. Anywhere from 50p/litre to £1. Definately worth researching prices in your area before making any kind of commitment and go for the biggest tank you can find. It hurts filling up at home at 50p / litre and paying 80p for the return trip. I've done it several times, trying to put the minimum I need in to get home.

I'm not trying to put you off it. When I had my car converted, lpg was around a quartere of the price of petrol. It's now over half. With the savings reduced I would not be in such a hurry to convert now as it will take over twice as long to recover the outlay.

Also worth taking into account is that a diesel engine would be doing mor mpg than a converted petrol engine. If the diesel engine does twice the mpg then it is going to be as cheap to run.

I found repairs also could be an issue. an LPG specialist would tell you the gas system was working fine. A garage then would insist the problem had to be with the gas becausethey don't understand it.

I had the RAC insist that the gas system was faulty on my car when what actually had happened is that a vacuum hose had come loose.

Back to the original question, yes they do sometimes pop back, especially if the mixture is not set correctly. They have also been known to blow air filters apart. You should have a valve in the air filter to allow the pressure to escape. In my case, it also popped a vacuum hose off. This once happened right outside Buckingham Palace. I thought a bomb had gone off.



Oops..I seem to have quoted and not edited



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yes it does sound like a bomb whaen it does, ive just taken the vlow back valve apart and fixed it so that works right, it did as you have said blow a vac pipe off from time to time to, i think its down to just try it on 21st and see what happenes.

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Sounds like it needs to go back to the fitter to put on his computer and do some fine tuning to me. Mine only started to play up after the battery had been disconnected and the ECU had lost it's settings. It should have relearned them in a few miles, but apparently it didn't.


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since changing the ht leads on friday ive not had a problem with it, not one single blow back, so fingers crossed.

mike



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Towed with our beloved Citroen Picasso LPG converted some 7 yrs ago with absolutely no problems what so ever plenty of Gas stations around now and if you plan properly you never have to buy at inflated motorway service prices, small half mile detour of motorway is the furthest I have ever had to go. And it tows like a dream.



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