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Subject Topic: another question about swaying Post Reply Post New Topic
02/9/2010 at 11:06am
 Location: Newcastle stoke on trent
 Outfit: mitsubishi l200
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Just one more question about swaying of my caravan on motorway

is it better if we put as much weight as possiable in the front locker

I have been told this helps

we only have two gas bottles in ours

regards Dianne



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02/9/2010 at 11:10am
 Location: Blackburn Lancashire
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Absolutely not.  You need to get the noseweight correct.  You did say you had done that, so don't change anything now.

Jim



02/9/2010 at 11:38am
 Location: Cheshire
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One good reason not to do this is because when the bow wave of an overtaking vehicle hits a caravan it obviously meets the back end first, so it tends to push the back end to one side - the caravan pivots on its central axle(s) so the back end move in and the front end moves out.

The towcar will then dampen that initial movement - ie the opposite movement happens - the back end moves out and front end moves in. But - just as the front end begins its inward movement the bow wave from the overtaking vehicle hits the front end, thereby adding to the inward movement, so the sway is amplified. That is why a succession of overtaking trucks or coaches can lead to greater problems.

The towcar has to dampen that sway - at which point it is worth looking at the caravan as a pendulum. If the weight is at the extemities (front or rear ends) then the moving mass the towcar has to control is much greater. Hence the sway is harder to control.

Which is a long winded way of saying why weight should be kept as close to the axle as possible rather than at either end. You need the right noseweight - but don't do this by adding weight right at the front end.



02/9/2010 at 1:03pm
 Location: Lowestoft Suffolk
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Diane

I concur with what has already been posted.

'Noseweight' should be between 4% and 7% of the weight of your van. But not to exceed the 'Max Drawbar Loading' figure for your particular vehicle.


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02/9/2010 at 1:12pm
 Location: Lowestoft Suffolk
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PS

The way you load your van to acheive the desired nosewight is also important. In particular, avoid putting heavy things right at the back as this creates a 'pendulum effect' which causes the kind of instability you describe.

Do an internet search for 'caravan loading' and you will get full information.




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02/9/2010 at 5:36pm
 Location: St Helens Lancashire
 Outfit: Eriba 540 Mazda CX5 SEL
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Hi Dianne,

Our caravan has a rear kitchen and a couple of gas bottles and a spare wheel in the front locker and do as suggested above with loading the caravan with the vast majority of weight over the axle.

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02/9/2010 at 7:59pm
 Location: sheffield
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dianne poxon
Do you load the caravan up with every thing or do you put it all in the pickup. loading the caravan upto its max weight will lesson the drag toward the lorrys. But make sure there is some weight in the back of the pickup because there very lite at there back ends.


03/9/2010 at 9:13am
 Location: Blackburn Lancashire
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Sorry, I hadn't realised it was a pickup.  That does make a difference. Just like a van, you do need some weight in the back.  Many years ago, I used to tow quite large trailers with a J4 van.  It always needed a couple of hundredweight bags of cement over the axle, before you could tow comfortably.

Don't go right up to the maximum caravan loading, in case you have made a mistake and go over.  But don't tow it lighter than you can help.

Do put some weight in the back of the pickup.  Probably about 50-100Kg.  If you're not carrying anything, get a couple of bags of sand.

Jim



06/9/2010 at 1:31pm
 Location: Leicester
 Outfit: Abbey stafford 95
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i had simular problems.due to towing vehicle being a transit type sied minibus ( a van with seats) i had very little in my van and caravan and caused me so much stress i didnt want to tow back but now i have nose weights and plenty of gear in both tow and towed vehicle.

all my heavy gear is on floor from axle to front inbetween seats and lighter stuff is at rear of van,once i got it right its now a pleasure to tow.

BUT NOT IN TODAYS WINDS!!!



07/9/2010 at 5:50pm
 Location: Teesside
 Outfit:  Mitsubishi ASX4
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Today has been a foul day in Scotland. Gale force winds, and heavy ran. Caravan has towed like a dream. No sway when passing artics coming in opposite direction, no buffeting from headwinds or side winds, brilliant.

OK its a pop-up, but the other factor is the tyres. Changed these for C rated tyres at the start of the year and they have made quite a difference to the way the caravan tows. Now on the motorway at a steady 60, there is no sway at all when a bus comes thubdering past.

If there is a lot of sway think about changing to stiffer tyres.


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07/9/2010 at 9:09pm
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Just a thought, how high is your towball? does your van sit with a slightly nose down attitude when it is hitched up or is it raised up with you having a pick up?
I have a height adjustable dixon bate towbar on my discovery and if I put it just one Inch higher than the setting that I normally use I find it makes a hell of a difference to how the van behaves when on the motorway, even though the actual nose weight of the van is just the same in both cases.


07/9/2010 at 9:42pm
 Location: sheffield
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jel2006 Your spot on. When there running to high the wind gets under the front of the caravan & makes them rock about. It makes them feel very unstable.


09/9/2010 at 10:30am
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LawrenceR. Great web site . Thankyou for taking the time to do it.



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