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just to note what bills put above, i think the BHP at 6000 rpm, isnt that a rather high rpm to be messuring hore power,

my 2.5 jeep cheokee did 29mpg solo, the cost of running a 4x4 isnt expensive, you just need to find yourself a good perosn to work on your car.

Fuel service for my 3L shogun, cambelt £10, filter kit £20,some greese and washer fluid £10, oil £14, the only killer is the spark plugs at £70 for 6 but thats because there LPG plugs,

mike

So to all of you who have a large 4x4 just to tow a few times a year is it worth the additional expense for the remainder of the year

if you can afford it, definitely . had my pajero nearly 2 years now ,worth more now than i paid for it,zero depriciation makes up for the extra fuel .. how many skoda drivers can say that ?

oh yes , bring on the snow !!

Quote: Originally posted by Bill Terry on 10/11/2010

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Model Skoda Octavia FSI 4x4 estate
Engine four-cylinder, 1984cc
Power 150bhp at 6000rpm
Torque 148 lb ft at 3500rpm
Transmission Six-speed manual
Fuel 31.7mpg (combined cycle)
CO2 214g/km
Acceleration 0-62mph: 9.7sec
Top speed 126mph
Price £16,750
Verdict Well built and good value but slightly dull
Rating 3/5

My 4x4 does more to the gallon than this! and its a 2.2

 

try 49 mpg upwards for the diesel version, and dont forget it runs in normal 2ws most of the time and only goes to 4wd when its needed automatically

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What towcar.com has the 85% weight for the Octavai  as 1200kg, our Bailey is 1400 (max) which rules out that car.

 I like the Octavia 4x4 but it is too light. Other option would be a Volvo Xcountry estate but they cost more!

Possible Kia replacement (in the future). New Sorento, Toyota 4x4, Freelander, Volvo XC60.( Driven it-cracking car but pricey!) 

Kia 7 year warranty is a big attraction.

New Sorrie is slightly lighter but more powerful and economical.

Quote: Originally posted by 664DaveS on 11/11/2010

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What towcar.com has the 85% weight for the Octavai  as 1200kg, our Bailey is 1400 (max) which rules out that car.

 I like the Octavia 4x4 but it is too light. Other option would be a Volvo Xcountry estate but they cost more!

Possible Kia replacement (in the future). New Sorento, Toyota 4x4, Freelander, Volvo XC60.( Driven it-cracking car but pricey!) 

Kia 7 year warranty is a big attraction.

New Sorrie is slightly lighter but more powerful and economical.

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Go to skoda UK and check Octavia there the 4x4 1.9 tdi 2ltr tdi and even the new 1.6 tdi cr units all have 1600 kg braked 650 unbaked

hitch at 75kg

the 2wd versions 1.9 has 1550 and the 2ltr 1580

I dont know why you think the Octavia 4x4 is to light with the above tow weights, if you want a bit more ground clearance look at the scout

The towing allowance is very close to the kerbweight. With the OP having a van of around 1500kg it makes about 94% which is possibly ok for an experienced person, but above recommended limit.

With our Peggy it is about 87%, probably less with 2 people and some stuff on board so its a poibility. Sticking with the mighty Sorrento at the mo!!!

Quote: Originally posted by doit on 11/11/2010

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Well if the santa fe is anything like as good as a sorento for towing it will make a decent used towcar buy. I tow our sterling 540 windward with a sorento and it shrugs off the long 1500kg (max) single axle van with ease. Fair play i could tow it with a saloon or hatchback but as already mentioned the match would be close to 100% and not ideal. And if you get stuck towing it in winds like we have endured the last few days, the santa fe will be much more relaxing to tow with than a light saloon. If your diesel 4x4 manages 29mpg avarage (towing & solo combined), but a saloon manages 35mpg (towing and solo combined), and you travel 10000 miles per year you will use about 59 gallons more fuel per year in your 4x4. Even at £1.25 per litre, the extra fuel will cost you £329 per year extra. Thats £6.32 per week, or under £1 a day. Considering the cost of motoring (insurance, depreciation, maintenance, road tax etc), the extra £6.32 a week will buy you a more relaxed towcar that will hardly ever get stuck on wet grassy camping fields, will shrug off bad weather/puddles/skiddy roads with ease and offer a huge amount of interior space and better accident safety should the worse ever happen to you. Or you can save money and have a more sporty to drive saloon. I personally would buy the santa fe and put up with people calling me a planet killer - especially the ones who jet off to warmer climes 2 or 3 times a year. At least camping is 'green' compared to that hehe

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It would make my day to see a Toymotor pious stuck in the snow-naturally they would not wish to be towed by an evil planet killer

 well thanks for all your help on this issue. 

  i asked about  a 4x4 due to were we live now in the winter it gets very bad  with snow and at the begining of this year had to leave my wifes and i car on the drive for a week dont want to do the same again this year .

 i am going to look at a kia sorento 54 plate 118,000 miles good condition

and a w reg discovery today 75 ,000 miles

Yes the Skoda Octavia 4x4s get you out of all sorts of situations

hello there

got my 1.6 cr 4X4 delivered 1 month ago after 7 weeks waiting time.

as a previous fabia 1.2 owner it was a delight to have almost doubled the horse power :-)
as i am living in the mountains of norway with 5 months of constant snow covered roads it makes sense to drive a 4X4.
so far im really happy with the handlig on snow especially when you accelererate during a curve. 2wd would have gone straight of the road.
the 4X4 haldex system works when normal driving it uses 90% front weel drive and 10% on the rear tires. cant feel any difference from a 2wd. but when you push the pedal and its a little bit slippery it transfers the power 50% on both axels.
havent been towing anything yet but the diesel engine has a lot of power.
because of the heavy car tax system in norway i went for this engine size. if i would have gone for the 2.0 liter 4X4 it would have costed 5400 pounds more, belive it or not!!!!!
i bought a special winter promotion pack from skoda norway that incl xenons, towbar, elegance, pluss pack, parking heater with timer, light assistant etc.
as i think the car tax system in the UK is far less than here i would defenetly recomend that you go for the 2.0 liter. more power to the people.
as we are using Liters per 100/KM here i have an average of 6 Liters per 100/KM dont know how much that is in MPG.

i think this car option is very popular in norway. especially after a test the norwegian AAA tested it to be number one . My link
its in norwegian put copy it in to google translate and you get an idea,

any more questions? just ask

Thanks for the suggestions.

Seems if you want a new estate, rather than an SUV, with 4x4, you're limited to Audi A4/A6 Allroad, Subaru Legacy/Outback or Skoda 4x4 Octavia/Scout.

I'm sold on the Octavia but for reasons of budget want the 1.6TDI CR, which nobody seems to have and fewer want/will recommend: the 2.0TDI seeming to be the engine of choice for the 4x4 drivetrain.

Trouble is the outlay and running costs for the 2.0TDI are a bit more:

*Addtitonal £1200 outlay for the 2.0L over the 1.6L

*VED Band seems to be the same however - F

*MPG for 2.0L: 39.2 / 60.1 / 50.4 MPG 1.6L: 42.2 / 61.4 / 52.3

*(New) Insurance Group: 2.0L=20 1.6L=15

Check skoda uk for a nearly new model or auto trader