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28/1/2011 at 10:36am
 Location: Lincolnshire
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I have the old model Smax with the self levelling suspension on the rear, an option that is no longer offered. I am towing a caravan at 1575kg and I'm concerned if the new model will cope ok with that load, or will it sag badly.

Does anyone have any experience of the new smax and towing a large caravan.

Any help apprecited.


28/1/2011 at 8:10pm
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Hi,

I have a Zetec S-Max (57 Plate) and it tows a 1550kg van without any "sag"...and I don't think it has self levelling suspension.

Mind you, the turbo went at 60k miles and the clutch has just started to slip at 73k.

(My mates at work tell me this is because I tow a van....can't see it myself!)

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28/1/2011 at 9:17pm
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Mine is an old version but without leveling suspension and its not been an issue, the only issue is trying to keep speed down solo or towing!


23/2/2011 at 10:40am
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Just got a new S-Max & been quoted over £400 for a standard tow bar seems well over the top to me. Any recommendations please.

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23/2/2011 at 11:46am
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£400 is normal if you have been quoted for dedicated loom which, itself can cost over £200. If the car is new I wouldn't risk not using the dedicated loom which is made to plug into existing connectors in the car.


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23/2/2011 at 11:54am
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Its a mobility car so in 3 years its dead money unless I take it off & flog it.

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23/2/2011 at 2:42pm
 Location: Surrey
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Quote: Originally posted by Cliff n Pat on 23/2/2011
Its a mobility car so in 3 years its dead money unless I take it off & flog it.

£400 is pretty reasonable for a towbar from a dealer - up to £600 for the new Santa Fe, for example, and I saw someone saying they were quoted £800 (can't remember the details).

Over 3 years, that's £11 a month - not that much. I don't know how 'mobility' cars work - did you have to buy new?



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23/2/2011 at 8:55pm
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We have a qashqai on Mobility, and had a towbar fitted by towequipe for £191.88 last saturday. It took them 1.5 hrs and made a smashing job of it. Give them a try.

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24/2/2011 at 3:06pm
 Location: Lancashire
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Try indespension in Bolton, But dont get the brink fixed as its ugly and sticks out loads

go for the witter

 

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25/2/2011 at 8:55pm
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I did a lot of research and ended up having one fitted at our local Fraud Dealership.

Sorting out the canbus multiplex wiring is way past the skills of the average tow bar fitter I'm afraid. It cost me over £400 three years ago, so your deal sounds OK to me.

Mr UM



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26/2/2011 at 12:56am
 Location: Salford
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Thanks anyway.

I did enquire when I ordered the car but was told it was cheaper to get it my self & they use a garage round the corner.

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26/2/2011 at 9:00am
 Location: Newcastle u Lyme
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I have the Kuga and the suspension is great without spring assisters or self levelling

There have been some problems posted about Ford towbars not wired for the fridge and dealers not able to sort out

My towbar (also canbus) was fitted at the Ford dealer but they employed a local fitter who wired up 13pin socket and all services work OK

It cost about £270 from memory 

 

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26/2/2011 at 10:56pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Ulti-Mates on 25/2/2011

I did a lot of research and ended up having one fitted at our local Fraud Dealership.

Sorting out the canbus multiplex wiring is way past the skills of the average tow bar fitter I'm afraid. It cost me over £400 three years ago, so your deal sounds OK to me.

Mr UM


If you use the ford loom its a case of 3 or 4 colour coded plug in connections, absolute doddle, otherwise a standard bypass relay and power taken from rear boot socket, and even I managed that without issue.

The ford loom is expensive though, hence me using a bypass relay!



26/2/2011 at 11:21pm
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If it is a mobility car would that not mean you need to get a ford fitted towbar incase of any warranty issues?

 



27/2/2011 at 1:03am
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Like I said, I asked Ford & they said they used a depot round the corner.

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27/2/2011 at 9:57am
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Yes that will be true, but they are working for the dealer and therefore all work is guaranteed by the dealer and inturn warranted by Ford. You could go to the same fitting centre get the same towbar and save a few pound, but if some electrical fault develops you k.ow the ford dealer will say it is in connection tion with the towbar that was fitted. The saving would only be at the most only work out at 50 pounds a year if you keep the car 3 years. So why give yourself the extra hassle. A friend of mine was in that position when a fault developed with his alarm system, as you know the alarm links into the indicator lights

At the end of the day only you can decide what route to go down



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