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Subject Topic: Clutch Burn - help needed Post Reply Post New Topic
07/9/2011 at 10:09pm
 Location: Staffordshire
 Outfit: Swift Challenger 520SE
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We have just had a new clutch fitted to our Hyundai Santa Fe, however, on revering our Swift Challenger in to the campsite pitch, the clutch started to burn and smelt for a good time afterwards. This has puzzled us and the mechanic, who has asked us if our caravan has a revering break? This is not something we've heard of before...can anyone help?


07/9/2011 at 10:11pm
 Location: North West
 Outfit: Elddis Avante 554
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Are you riding the clutch too much?


07/9/2011 at 10:17pm
 Location: west country
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Easy to do on many cars. Reversing can be very hard on the clutch. You need to minimise clutch slip & revs as much as possible.
Ultimately a motor mover is this final solution but careful clutch management can avoid problems.

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07/9/2011 at 10:25pm
 Location: Blackburn Lancashire
 Outfit: Coachman Laser 650 and Discovery
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The important thing is that the clutch is either up or down. You can't ride it at all.
Jim


07/9/2011 at 10:32pm
 Location: Lichfield
 Outfit: Coachman Amara 450
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RE: This has puzzled us and the mechanic.

He's not much of a mechanic I'm afraid as there's not much of a puzzle here to work out. The reason is because the towing vehicle has a gearbox containing many forward gears which could be 5 or 6 and towing forward you can apply the gear change to the correct gear required under the application. ie. climbing hills etc. and you travel much faster too. Your vehicle only has just one reverse gear so there's more stress on the gearbox and because you are manouvering much slower you tend to slip the clutch and this is what causes the burn smell. It's the clutch friction plate not making fully contact with the flywheel and to put it to context it's like rubbing your hand fast against an object. The more you rub the hotter it gets and exactly the same principle applies here. It's called friction.

 



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07/9/2011 at 11:01pm
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The mechanic was asking if your caravan was made before about 1970 when you had to get out & lock the coupling before reversing, ie suggesting you were reversing with caravan brakes on. Clearly you wern't so ignore that.

As the others have said if you slip the clutch continually reversing onto a pitch you will cook the clutch. Get a mover fitted or uncouple & push 'van onto pitch.


08/9/2011 at 9:23am
 Location: Southampton
 Outfit: Dethleffs Globus I1
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You said that it was a new clutch how many miles had you done in it since the clutch was fitted, a new clutch like brake pads requires bedding in and may well slip if stressed until the friction surfaces have mated correctly normally a couple of hundred miles.


08/9/2011 at 5:40pm
 Location: Sitingbourne
 Outfit: baily champaign
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Katiann this is a very common problem when reversing on to a pitch. it's not just your car many of us have had the same either pull the van on to pitch or use your mover if you have one.

as for your mechanic has no idea about caravans


09/9/2011 at 10:50am
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Two years ago I had a new set of gearbox bearings fitted to our old Terrano and suggested to the Mechanic that he may as well change the clutch while he was at it. Supporting what sdrew56 said, he asked me when I was going to tow the caravan? I told him 'As soon as we get the car back'. he told me, 'Yea, no problem as long as you want me to change it again in a couple of weeks. A new clutch needs a good running in before you start laying on the heavy stuff and besides that, there's nowt much wrong with the one in there.' Or in other words, 'NO, I won't do it!!'


09/9/2011 at 11:25am
 Location: Keswick
 Outfit: Bailey
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If you have a deisel there is no need to rev. The engine will just trundle gently backwards once the clutch is released easing the van into position. This avoids any potential "burn". Quite often see drivers revving hard when reversing their deisel to get the van on to a pitch.

Phil



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11/9/2011 at 1:16am
 Location: shetland
 Outfit: Land Rover Discovery Elddis wisp 510 6
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Your mechy is asking if the brakes on your van could be sticking, a very responsible question, if your reving the boll07ks out of it to make the van move it's either the van brakes sticking or operator error, I suspect the later, it's easy to do on a petrol engine.

Either way it will lead to clutch failure again.



11/9/2011 at 8:03am
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My OH asked if its a diesel and if you are using your clutch when reversing ?

He said change into reverse then get your foot off the clutch and just let the car trundle .



11/9/2011 at 8:26am
 Location: Derbyshire
 Outfit: Adria Forma-Delica 2.8td-Movelite XL
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