Home

   Log in or Register



Insurance Quotes
forums Campsite Search Comp Directory tips virtual brochure Profile
Tent and Awning Reviews Competitions Caravans and Motorhomes For Sale Shopping Diary Advent Calendar

Advertisement

Message Forums

Welcome Guest Register Login Search The Forum Posts Since Last Visit
 Reception - All Forums
   Caravans and Caravanning -  Caravan Towcars and Towing Advice
Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email  Printer Friendly Version Print
Subject Topic: VW Scirocco towbar Post Reply Post New Topic
17/3/2012 at 2:20pm
 Location: 
 Outfit: 
View Francais's Profile View Profile   Reply to Francais Reply   Quote Francais Quote  
Joined: 29/6/2008

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   12115
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 4
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 14
Site Nights 2018: 0

My firms car is due for change in the next few months, and it seems, due to a glut of unsold VW Scirocco 2.0lt TDi 140 BHP Diesel BlueMotion models, they are being offered to fleet users at a knock down price.

At first I thought great, how cool a 2 door coupe, even though I am turned 50!.

Then I checked about having the towbar taken of my current Mk6 Golf, and put onto the Scirocco, as the towbar is only a year old.

Then horror of horrors, there is no type approval for the Scirocco to have a towbar, even if I could have one made bespoke, all warranties would be void, so it's a no.

Which is not good news, as I tow a half ton trailer, and will be heading of to France in July.

I am pleading with the boss's to have a re-think, but as I am the only person that tows, out of our fleet of 30 cars, I don't think there is going to be a change.

The words gutted, don't even begin to describe how I feel, but how stupid of VW not to get type approval for the Scirocco to have a towbar, the car even runs on the same floor pan as the Golf, I am not a happy bunny at the moment.



Post last edited on 17/03/2012 15:23:09


17/3/2012 at 4:56pm
 Location: 
 Outfit: 
View Opensauce's Profile View Profile   Reply to Opensauce Reply   Quote Opensauce Quote  
Joined: 25/1/2010

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   4530

Site Reviews Total: 13
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Its a sports car, I bet you are the only driver in the history of the world to want to fit a towbar & the only one to be 'gutted' at getting a Scirocco, I see no roofbar fittings either so a roofbox is out. Ah well, its a 2 man tent, stuff pac sleeping bags & a campingaz stove this summer then. More advice on lightweight camping gear on the backpacking forum, I guess?


17/3/2012 at 5:31pm
 Location: 
 Outfit: 
View Francais's Profile View Profile   Reply to Francais Reply   Quote Francais Quote  
Joined: 29/6/2008

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   12115
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 4
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 14
Site Nights 2018: 0

Tentz, you are so cruel, I am just hoping it's a big wind up, as my boss, and the lad's are always taking the mick out of the fact that I go camping with a trailer.

Anyway, I will find out for definate what is happening, at the end of this comming week.

Just read a review on the Scirocco, the rear seats are only good for adults upto 4ft!, and the boot will barley take a set of golf clubs.

That will be a great car for one of our team, who has 3 kid's, so I won't be the only one complaining I guess.



17/3/2012 at 5:59pm
 Location: 
 Outfit: 
View Opensauce's Profile View Profile   Reply to Opensauce Reply   Quote Opensauce Quote  
Joined: 25/1/2010

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   4530

Site Reviews Total: 13
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

I would guess the rear seats fold up & you might find they are designed with quick release clips to remove them altogether so you might find you have more room than you thought.


17/3/2012 at 6:17pm
 Location: 
 Outfit: 
View Francais's Profile View Profile   Reply to Francais Reply   Quote Francais Quote  
Joined: 29/6/2008

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   12115
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 4
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 14
Site Nights 2018: 0

Hi Tentz, lets not go there, I have a Cabanon, and Mrs Francais is not keen on the idea of spending 3 weeks in my Terranova LaserLite tent, down in the South of France.

Ok the LaserLite does pack down small, at only 1kg, and is strictly a 1 person tent, despite the advertised 1+1 berths.



Advertisement



18/3/2012 at 6:16pm
 Location: Powys Wales
 Outfit: Abbey 2 berth. Astra sports tourer .
View rabbin8's Profile View Profile   Reply to rabbin8 Reply   Quote rabbin8 Quote  
Joined: 29/2/2008

Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Forum Posts:   569

Site Reviews Total: 16
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Had the same problem a few years ago with an Audi 90 quattro. No type approvall etc etc, The local blacksmith had some old drawings stached away, and he built me a tow bar that would pull a house down.

-------------
Rob


18/3/2012 at 7:29pm
 Location: 
 Outfit: 
View Francais's Profile View Profile   Reply to Francais Reply   Quote Francais Quote  
Joined: 29/6/2008

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   12115
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 4
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 14
Site Nights 2018: 0

Hi Rob.

           Wish I had that option, but the car will brand new from the factory in June, so all warranties would be void, if I went down the bespoke route, also there is the issue of coding the electrics to the vehicle.

I had a close shave a couple of years back, when the firm told us, we were to get the Toyota Prius, that also is not type approved for a towbar, although the Dutch kicked up a fuss, and there is a after market none Toyota approved towbar for the Prius available.

Luckily at the time, Toyota would not cover the lease, due to our high mileage, 30k per year being the average for each car in our fleet.



18/3/2012 at 8:14pm
 Location: Llanidloes Powys
 Outfit: Skoda Yeti SEL4x4 +Bailey Ranger 460-4
View LlaniDavis's Profile View Profile   Reply to LlaniDavis Reply   Quote LlaniDavis Quote  
Joined: 28/6/2009

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   1963

Site Reviews Total: 12
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 7
Site Nights 2018: 0

I've just checked the VW Configerator and they show NO tow bar as an accessory, either factory or dealer fit, so you are stuck I'm afraid.

With reference to "rabbin8's" comment, if you did have a towbar made, not only would you be voiding the vehicle warranty, but you would also be breaking several VOSA Regulations, that could result in the car being impounded and scrapped, and you being prosecuted for no insurance to start with.


18/3/2012 at 9:16pm
 Location: 
 Outfit: 
View Francais's Profile View Profile   Reply to Francais Reply   Quote Francais Quote  
Joined: 29/6/2008

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   12115
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 4
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 14
Site Nights 2018: 0

Hi LlaniDavis.

                   Those were my findings also, I will find out at the end of the week, if any of us can opt out of the Scirocco car, for another more sensible car, for those like me and others with family, but it's not looking good, as the firm likes us, all to have the same vehicle.

Will keep you all posted.



19/3/2012 at 2:31pm
 Location: sunny south east!
 Outfit: Coachman
View sunshinetours's Profile View Profile   Reply to sunshinetours Reply   Quote sunshinetours Quote  
Joined: 08/5/2011

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   2946

Site Reviews Total: 18
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Is it an option to get your own cheap smallish diesel for towing? I would imagine something pretty small will manage a 500kg tow so running costs should be as low as they can be.

I know you rightly won't get much sympathy for getting a shiny new Scirocco (!!)  but obviously a company car is part of your package and to change all that so you can;t use that car as main tow car is understandably frustrating (I would be in similar position although we do have second car)

Hope you get it sorted

 



Advertisement



19/3/2012 at 11:21pm
 Location: 
 Outfit: 
View Francais's Profile View Profile   Reply to Francais Reply   Quote Francais Quote  
Joined: 29/6/2008

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   12115
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 4
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 14
Site Nights 2018: 0

For us the only car is the company car, which I have to say I do use and abuse to the extreme!, have not owned my own car since 1985, ever since then I have been on a company car, so after 27 years of cost free motoring, apart from a little extra income tax to pay, and maybe a little private fuel, as it's always hard to work out what is business or private miles, so best to put most of it as business miles, I don't intend to become a car owner anytime soon.


20/3/2012 at 9:06am
 Location: sunny south east!
 Outfit: Coachman
View sunshinetours's Profile View Profile   Reply to sunshinetours Reply   Quote sunshinetours Quote  
Joined: 08/5/2011

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   2946

Site Reviews Total: 18
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Always good to have a plan B though!

Roofbox.co.uk do Thule roof bars for the Scirocco so tent camping may be an option if you end up with it

Don't dismiss the option of running your own car if you get offered a cash alternative especially if you can claim the full 45p/25p business mileage rates from your employer



20/3/2012 at 9:42am
 Location: Gloucestershire
 Outfit: Avondale Mayfair 470 Toyota Rav 4
View vernon87's Profile View Profile   Reply to vernon87 Reply   Quote vernon87 Quote  
Joined: 06/4/2005

Gold Member
Gold Member

Forum Posts:   200

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 19/3/2012
For us the only car is the company car, which I have to say I do use and abuse to the extreme!, have not owned my own car since 1985, ever since then I have been on a company car, so after 27 years of cost free motoring, apart from a little extra income tax to pay, and maybe a little private fuel, as it's always hard to work out what is business or private miles, so best to put most of it as business miles, I don't intend to become a car owner anytime soon.


Everywhere you turn to today there are 'hardluck' stories!


20/3/2012 at 9:47am
 Location: 
 Outfit: 
View Mr Muffin's Profile View Profile   Reply to Mr Muffin Reply   Quote Mr Muffin Quote  
Joined: 27/7/2011

Gold Member
Gold Member

Forum Posts:   262

Site Reviews Total: 3
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 19/3/2012
For us the only car is the company car, which I have to say I do use and abuse to the extreme!, have not owned my own car since 1985, ever since then I have been on a company car, so after 27 years of cost free motoring, apart from a little extra income tax to pay, and maybe a little private fuel, as it's always hard to work out what is business or private miles, so best to put most of it as business miles, I don't intend to become a car owner anytime soon.
Almost felt sorry for you up to this point  just called your company and i have recommended they change to Fiat Pandas for the next ten years


20/3/2012 at 1:19pm
 Location: 
 Outfit: 
View Francais's Profile View Profile   Reply to Francais Reply   Quote Francais Quote  
Joined: 29/6/2008

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   12115
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 4
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 14
Site Nights 2018: 0

Hi Andy.

            That's great news, as the Fiat Panda takes a towbar no problem, not to mention being in a lower tax band for me, so I would be paying a lot less income tax, than with the Scirocco lol.



22/3/2012 at 7:19pm
 Location: 
 Outfit: 
View Francais's Profile View Profile   Reply to Francais Reply   Quote Francais Quote  
Joined: 29/6/2008

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   12115
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 4
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 14
Site Nights 2018: 0

Just an update, thankfully the firm has to declined the Scirocco offer, despite being very good, and they have opted for the VW Golf Match BlueMotion 1.6 lt TDi (Diesel), which is pretty much the same car as I have now, so will hopefully be able to transfer the towbar and electrics over to the new car, when the time comes.

More good news is that, due to a lee time of 13 weeks, the new car will not be available untill the end of August, well after I get back from my South of France camping holiday.

So happy days.




In order to post a reply you will need to register, or if already registered please log in here

Prev       Next
Quick Links - All Forums - Caravan Towcars and Towing Advice - Top of Page

Printer Friendly Version Printable version      Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email


Latest News, Discounts and Competitions  see all...














3959 Visitors online !

Free UKCampsite.co.uk Window Sticker  -  Recommend to Friend  -  Add a Missing Campsite

[Message Forums]  [Caravan Sites & Camping]  [Company Listings]  [Features / Advice]  [Virtual Brochure]  [Shop!]
[Reception]  [Competitions]  [Caravans & Motorhomes For Sale]  [Event Diary]  [Contact Us]  [Tent Reviews



Please note we are not responsible for the content of external sites & any reviews represent the author's personal view only. Please report any error here. You may view our privacy and cookie policy and terms and conditions here. All copyrights & other intellectual property rights in the design and content of this web site are reserved to the UKCampsite.co.uk © 1999 - 2024


Advertisement


Advertisement


UKCampsite.co.uk
2024 Advent Calendar


Advent Calendar

24 Daily Prizes PLUS a Christmas Day Star Prize worth £999

Request a Reminder