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PersonMature-Student
07/7/2012 at 5:04pm
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Our caravan has an MTPLM of 1700kg and our jeep grand cherokee tows her no problem. But the car is older (1997) and after her latest MoT is likely to be uneconomical to put her through another next year.

So suggestions please from those who have towed such a large van as to what we should be looking at. Willing to consider any fuel, the jeep is lpg converted. Had thought of another jeep but there is not many of them around now, mainly diesels but I believe there was a problem with the 2.7CRD diesels (something to do with black stuff and plugs - I'm not mechanically minded).

Our budget will be around £9k. At the moment we are looking at pre March 06 models to benefit from the K road tax band as opposed to the M band that is currently £200 more a year and looking to be up to £1000 in just a couple of years time. We currently run 2 cars, one for tow and another for commute (55 miles a day) but with insurance, servicing and road tax costs, feel that one car for both would be better.

Any help or advice gratefully received.


Personagde
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defender 90....?

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PersonWobbly Box
07/7/2012 at 7:34pm
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Hi,

On my post of a similar nature, a Hyundai Santa fa was suggested, weight wise it is ok. You will.also get one within your budget.


Personidmainian
08/7/2012 at 7:33am
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Have a look at the Nissan ex Trail a great tow car.Ian

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Persongeoff+emmy
08/7/2012 at 8:15am
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For around 9 grand there are loads of jeep cherokees,s/commanders on Ebay around 2006 but you would have to enquire for month etc the later ones have the mercedes 3.0 ltr diesel engine In fact the whole thing is an ML merc  

We have found ours to be fine and does around 20/22 mpg towing  1800 kls and 26ish solo The commanders have all the toys But try if you are looking to get one with a tow bar as they are not really cheap to to fit... 


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PersonRob12
08/7/2012 at 9:16am
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I would have thought xtrail to light for that caravan ?


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08/7/2012 at 10:12am
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I have a jeep Grand Cherokee 2.7 CRD and it does the job admirably.
Mercedes engine at a fraction of the cost of an ML.
I have owned it for 5 years and would have another one tomorrow.

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PersonSheltie
08/7/2012 at 10:45am
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I have towed with Land Rovers for almost 20 years and currently have a 2001 Discovery Td5, having had a couple of close shaves with tyres bursting etc I wouldnt have anything else.

The Disco can tow 3500Kg and (I think) is the only 4x4 with that rating.


Personlisterdiesel
08/7/2012 at 11:00am
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Discoveries are probably the best 4X4, and the 3500kg rating is shared with the Defender and Range Rover.

Whether you need to go to that complication is another matter.

Defenders are pretty crude, Range Rovers are expensive, Discoveries are an 'in between'.

We've got two in the family, both Discovery 2's and both V8's, mine is on LPG.

If you are good at home maintenance, the Land Rovers can be very good indeed, but if you have to rely on a garage for maintenance and servicing they can be expensive.

Driving and towing-wise, there's nothing to touch them.

TD5 is a bit underpowered at full load, but with 1700kg you'd be fine.

Peter


Personsnagz
08/7/2012 at 11:47am
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Quote: Originally posted by listerdiesel on 08/7/2012
Discoveries are probably the best 4X4, and the 3500kg rating is shared with the Defender and Range Rover.

Along with the LWB shogun


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PersonMature-Student
08/7/2012 at 12:33pm
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Thanks for all the advice, much appreciated. Love our Jeep for comfort so it's good to hear that we may just need to be clued up on this issue I've read about.

Discos look like another option - when you say home maintenance what kind of tasks are we talking about, oil, spark plugs etc or things like brakes? And is it the parts that are expensive or do garages/dealers charge for a lot of labour? We use an old fashioned independant garage that is very at home with the jeep and in the past welded a small exhaust hole on our old Skoda (an MoT advisory) for a couple of quid - we still didn't need to replace the exhaust when we part-ex'd her 4 years later! So should be ok with a Landy.

I too thought an X trail would be too light. The only other cars coming up on our radar are the Kia Sorento, VW Touareg, Toyota Landcruiser and Volvo XC90 - although the last two tend to be more expensive and older models for our budget. Anyone any experience of these?


Personlisterdiesel
08/7/2012 at 12:53pm
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The typical repairs that you can do yourself on the Discovery 2's are almost everything, unlike the later Discovery 3 and 4 where almost everything is a dealer workshop job.

We've done our own repairs for 3 years now, and once you have got on top of everything then the regular repairs are not any different to most cars.

Parts are stupidly cheap for Discoveries, loads of suppliers and plenty of smaller independent garages. There is also a group of forums providing support, and most importantly the workshop manuals are available on the web.

Japanese stuff is good, but spares prices look expensive.

Peter


PersonDave + Kath
08/7/2012 at 3:18pm
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Our X Trail has a towing capacity of 2000kg, great tow car can't praise it enough, it's also not too big or heavy on juice for everyday running costs

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Dave & Kath


PersonWobbly Box
08/7/2012 at 3:33pm
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Hi

What is the minimum kerbside weight,


Personpee jay
08/7/2012 at 3:35pm
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Hi, we tow 1680 kgs with a Kia Sorento, brilliant tow car.

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Personbowler70
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I am on my second Landcruiser. Never had a problem or breakdown in over 8 years. Absolute reliability & comfortable ride. Recommend 3.0 D-4D engine AUTO - slightly better mpg than manual.
See these on AutoTrader
http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/search/used/cars/toyota/landcruiser/postcode/eh477db/radius/200/engine-size-cars/3l_to_3-9l/price-to/10000/price-from/7000/sort/default

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