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Subject Topic: Reversing/Rear view cameras?
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07/8/2012 at 11:08pm
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Whats the law regarding rear view/reversing cameras. Can you use the camera full time to provide a continual rear view or are you only allowed to use them for revering? 

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07/8/2012 at 11:18pm
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Why would you want a reversing camera operating when travelling forward anyway? I thought the idea of driving was to see where your going, not where you've been! 


07/8/2012 at 11:29pm
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I thought any extra view obviating blind spots would be an advantage eg lane changes on motorways etc. But I suppose head down charge straight on like the brave 600 must be the in thing (dosn't matter about someone right on your backdoor inside the area not covered by your mirrors!

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07/8/2012 at 11:52pm
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Was you referring to using a reversing camera whilst towing the caravan at all? I have looked on the net regarding the law on this and although I can't find anything in detail it mainly refers to motorhomes with reversing cameras rather than a towcar pulling a caravan.


08/8/2012 at 12:12am
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Yes I was intending to use a camera while towing. My van is 25' 10" long and 7' 6" wide, so quite a lump of metal to see around (hence the idea of the camera.) 

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08/8/2012 at 12:34am
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Is the reversing camera attached to the rear of the caravan then with a wireless signal to the towcar? If it is then I can fully understand the beneficial side of the rear view camera whilst towing but quite frankly it's not a topic I'm very familiar with so excuse me if I seem a bit vague on the subject. 


08/8/2012 at 12:38am
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The camera wont stick out further than the towing mirrors though.
So not sure how it will see your blind spots?

Front mounted screens should be disabled when moving forwards.

Not sure how the laws goes to cars with cameras for the mirrors. Or was that a prototype thing on the RangeRover?



08/8/2012 at 1:14am
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Camera fitted to rear of caravan, wireless link to onboard screen in vehicle so instead of having your satnav/traction display you would have a rear view picture. 

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08/8/2012 at 12:50pm
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Whats directly behind your caravan doesnt really matter though.

Your blind spot is usually to the right and left of your car. Where you need to turn and physically look when changing lanes etc.

Your towing mirrors should easily see the rear corners of the caravan if set correctly.

Maybe a towing course instead?



08/8/2012 at 8:57pm
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we have rear view cameras fitted on all my company trucks and trailers and no laws to say they cant be on at all times.its amazing how many cars travel very close to the rear of the trucks and they cant be seen in the mirrors.


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08/8/2012 at 10:42pm
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Many thanks Grampian91 for your observations regarding the effectivness and correct positioning of extension mirrors. As for the towing course I think I may enrol one, I've only been towing caravans for over thity years so it may improve my skill level to encompass this high speed driving since the banned chariots from dual carrigeways. Once again many thanks for you advice. 

The post by diesel steve is more more appropriate. As technology advances why restrict your allround view  to the extension mirrors, a rear view camera will show the vehicle hiding directly within the blind spot behind your van (Why? because they are too close and don't understand speed and distance.)


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09/8/2012 at 12:48am
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So a car/van/truck tailgates you, What will you do other than watch it on the screen?

The danger it to your right or left. If diesel steve is a truck driver im sure he will agree.

As your usually the slower vehicle you indicate to change lanes then some twit decides he can beat you to that gap even though your halfway there.

They say they were already there and you moved into them having restricted vision in that area.

In my car its about 50 degrees to my side.

Seems they changed the rules on screens and as long as its a satnav, Or assists the driver in viewing the road adjacent to the vehicle. Then its legal.



09/8/2012 at 1:25am
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Many thanks once again Grampian91. I am quite aware of the effectivness of mirrors and lane change etc ( Law 20meters rearward, depth of view 4 meters left & right). My original question was is it legal to run a camera viewing to the rear of your caravan while mobile. The answer is YES or NO!  Not mine is about 50 degrees to my side or why do you want to know where you have been! This is not relevant. I've done in excess of 20,000 miles in my time on mirrors, wouldn't it be nice to use technology for once?

I would be better off going in to my local police station and asking them.(at least I wouldn't be bombarded about my towing skills and the efficacies of mirrors.)

Once again Many Thanks



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09/8/2012 at 10:31am
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When you get a question like this regarding the law on a certain topic that's out of the norm, many like myself are unsure so unless someone can actually post a link with confirmation as to what that specific law is then your best option is to visit you local Police station and ask for advice there. What you have to realise is that it's a subject that's a bit out of the norm really and maybe only done thing by a minority of caravan towers so your answers are going to be either non constructive or humourous which was the main intention in my first post which I hope you didn't take offensively. It can be frustrating when you want constructive answers to a question but on the positive side this forum can certainly have it's merits for a lot of people especially to those who are new to camping and caravanning etc. Finally, if you do get an answer from the Police as to what the law is on rear view cameras then I do hope like many others will that you will return to this thread and post the details as it can be beneficial to others from your input too.



09/8/2012 at 1:42pm
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When I looked into getting a camera on the back of the caravan, to assist in reversing, the instructions were to wire the camera in to the reversing light - so it would only work when going backwards anyway. (My caravan doesn't have a reversing light so that was the end of that idea)

Bearing that in mind, maybe the camera shouldn't be wired up so that it is on all the time?

Perhaps the legal eagles at CC or C & C C might know the answer (with all due respect I find that most officers at the local station have very little knowledge of RTA Laws!)

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09/8/2012 at 2:31pm
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I have a reversing camera on the built in entertainment system on the car. While certain elements are disabled once the handbrake is off, such as the DVD player and the phone book, the split screen reversing camera is not. As this is a UK only system, it clearly shows that this is not illegal in the UK.

I do use the split screen reversing camera when I am towing a trailer. I cannot see the trailer at all when towing, except when going round a sharp bend. It is also useful with the caravan when setting off to answer the question, "Did I remember to raise the jockey wheel fully".

It is also very useful on steep gradients, high speed bumps, getting on and off ferries, etc with steep ramps as I can see if the caravan is likely to ground .



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