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01/10/2012 at 10:41pm
 Location:  Scotland
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Hi,

For the first time, and also to make more use of our van, we have desided to go away at new year. I am ok about pulling the van in the winter, have done every weather condition except snow. I am on red gas, so thats a good start. What about my water? I usually use a water hook up, but if we get frost I would think it woulf freeze, and how do you stop the water freezing in the hose from the aqua roll going into the van

Second question, we are heading to Stanwix Park, has anyone on here ever used this site at New Year? our daughter will be 9 when we go and hope they will cater for kids as well as they do in the summer.



01/10/2012 at 11:12pm
 Location: Lichfield
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What people do is place their Aquaroll or water barrel inside an insulated bag which helps stop the water from freezing but there are various types of insulation bags with different amounts of insulation so basically you get what you pay for. The water pump flexible plastic pipe can be covered from the top of the barrel to the caravan water inlet housing using a short piece of domestic foam insulation which you can buy in a metre length and then cut to the desired length required. Some people will use an old duvet and wrap it completely around the barrel and the pipe which is also a good insulation but storage can then sometimes be a problem. I always place a thin piece of plywood under the barrel to help keep it from freezing as a wooden base is better than tarmac, concrete or grass in winter time. If the temperature drops severely you have to remember to also keep the water from freezing inside the caravan too so you need to keep your heating on low during the day and night as you have to remember that the toilet fluids can also freeze so by keeping the caravan warm will avoid any frost damage.

Foam pipe insualion tube shown in link:  

http://www.screwfix.com/p/pipe-insulation-15-x-25mm-1m/69211;jsessionid=8yp1QqWHLg7xx72SqMLTLKvVzDSh9GxXvzClwCY95WQ4LMwhzNGQ!-686266796



01/10/2012 at 11:25pm
 Location:  Scotland
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Toilet, forgot about that, I take it then that the toilet chemicals dont prevent freezing, What about the waste water pipes etc. Dont think we would be lucky enough to get artic weather three years in a row, lol.

The heating willbe on day and night, do you also keep the water heater on 24hrs as well?

 



02/10/2012 at 7:29am
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The bit most people forget is a lot of the water piped run under the floor and have little or no insulation. How many have insulated those?


02/10/2012 at 12:01pm
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Quote: Originally posted by DaveCoaches on 02/10/2012
The bit most people forget is a lot of the water piped run under the floor and have little or no insulation. How many have insulated those?

Thats easily remedied put the awning skirt on the other side of the van to keep most of the elements out, thats asuming the awning is used, and if the van heating is on some of the heat will keep the underside well above freezing point, even without the awning


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02/10/2012 at 12:26pm
 Location: East Lothian
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Skoda Bob is right, I have 2 lengths of awning skirt to go down both sides of the van and it does make a difference


02/10/2012 at 12:32pm
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That's a good idea. It would be good if there was some way of fitting them to the back and front as well, or maybe could feed it down half the side pull it round the back an feed it down the other side. Just a thought


02/10/2012 at 12:47pm
 Location: Cambs
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If you do use two awning skirts and it snows please make sure that both the front and rear of the caravan do not get blocked off with drifts as it will prevent adequate ventilation.

If the pipes are straight runs with no low points that will trap water then the waste water should flow through ok but unfortunately many manufacturers don't follow this logic and low points under chassis rails and bearers will be liable to freeze on very cold nights (been there and had to wait for 3 days for pipe to defrost). Decent insulation around the waste pipes certainly helps in sub zero conditions.

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02/10/2012 at 1:33pm
 Location: Lichfield
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I wouldn't have thought that waste pipes were not too much of a concern actually because you only get a film of water inside which can freeze. It's the internal water pipes that are the main problem because they are 100% full of water and because ice expands it can split the pipes, dislodge the joints or do some damage to the pressure switch. It does help if you keep the hot water on but it's costly to leave it on 24/7 so I usually heat it about 3 times a day which is in the morning, afternoon and evening for about an hour each time. You can keep the caravan warm inside but it's the external components you have to beware of such as the water pump because if that freezes it can do damage to the internal components and not everyone carries a spare and trying to get a new one on new years day would be a sheer impossibilty. I always carry a spare used pump just in case the unfortunate does happen. 


02/10/2012 at 1:37pm
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Hi thanks,

My pump is under the seat, it is a filter that for a into the aquatic roll.
I should be able to connect my waste direct to a drain. But if not, can I out anti freeze in my waste water tank.



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03/10/2012 at 4:11pm
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Tango 55 if your on a site your hot water should be heated by the electric, so no need to turn it on and off


03/10/2012 at 7:35pm
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Never been to Stanwix Park at new year (but would like to) as you have to book early and pay up front.
With the weather the last few years its a bit risky to go too far from home.
Been going to Thurston Manor at Dunbar for new year the last 4 years and had to come home in the Snow 2 years ago and last year came home a day early before the hurricane winds that we got,which turned out a good move.
Stanwix will cater well for children as like in the summer
Going down to Stanwix in november for the Country western weekend which is good you should try that,children are welcome too
Have used mains water hook up in freezing conditions and never had a problem before just keep an eye on it
Hope you have a good time if i could trust the weather or if you didnt have to pay up front i would book Stanwix every New Year


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