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06/10/2012 at 7:04pm
 Location: cambs
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We have a volvo XC70 (kerb weight 1850) which I assumed could pretty much tow anything. We currently have a light caravan but I want to change.

Today I have fallen in love with a van, but I have seen that the MIRO is 1500 and the MTPLM is 1800. I've checked what tow car and it says the ratio is 97!!! However we are planning to get a seasonal pitch so it will only need to be towed there and back (eventually)

So if we didnt fill it up when we took it would that mean it is ok? Thank you



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06/10/2012 at 7:19pm
 Location: Midlands
 Outfit: Mondeo Avondale Gram
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1800kg is right on your legal limit if its an early model.

I think the later ones can tow more? What about the gross train weight?

Max car weight + Max tow weight = less than the gross train weight on my Mondeo.





06/10/2012 at 8:00pm
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Thank you for your prompt answer. I have just looked and my gross trainweight is 4500. Does that mean its ok as long as we don't load up too much?

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06/10/2012 at 11:43pm
 Location: Rochdale
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It means that it is legal to tow it with the van fully laden providing that you have a licence that is dated prior to 1997 or have taken the towing test since that time. As far as the towing ratio is concerned it should be fine, what is termed as the 85% guideline when you actually read how the professional associations describe it says that someone new to towing would be well advised to restrict themselves to a towing ratio of 85% but that with experience anything up to 100% is perfectly acceptable.

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For a licence dated 1997 or later you must add together the plated max weight of the caravan and trailer, if the total is 3500 or less you can tow it. You may even tow a caravan with a MAM greater than the cars unladen mass the restriction was removed in 2013

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07/10/2012 at 12:33am
 Location: durham
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what does volvo say re max towing weight?  if it is less than the weight of the van and you have an accident  you are in bother    you can tow 100% as long as you do not exceed the manufacturer's max


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07/10/2012 at 12:05pm
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Quote: Originally posted by ldpdmp on 07/10/2012
what does volvo say re max towing weight?  if it is less than the weight of the van and you have an accident  you are in bother    you can tow 100% as long as you do not exceed the manufacturer's max


The max figure as stated in the handbook is an advisary it has no legal implications, though personally I would have thought it unwise to exceed it. The max towing capacity is defined by the maximum train weight and that depends upon the actual weights of the car and its trailer, and is plated on the car. The maximum train weight is the one you must under no circumstances exceed.

 



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For a licence dated 1997 or later you must add together the plated max weight of the caravan and trailer, if the total is 3500 or less you can tow it. You may even tow a caravan with a MAM greater than the cars unladen mass the restriction was removed in 2013

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07/10/2012 at 12:33pm
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I took the max train weight stated above from the actual car plate. So its 4500 ie legally we can tow it. The question is though will it be ok. what difference would I notice towing a heavy van with a high weight ratio?

As I said I wouldn't load much and we aren't going far

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07/10/2012 at 1:23pm
 Location: durham
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Quote: Originally posted by janus on 07/10/2012
Quote: Originally posted by ldpdmp on 07/10/2012
what does volvo say re max towing weight?  if it is less than the weight of the van and you have an accident  you are in bother    you can tow 100% as long as you do not exceed the manufacturer's max


The max figure as stated in the handbook is an advisary it has no legal implications, though personally I would have thought it unwise to exceed it. The max towing capacity is defined by the maximum train weight and that depends upon the actual weights of the car and its trailer, and is plated on the car. The maximum train weight is the one you must under no circumstances exceed.

 



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