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Quote: Originally posted by peterws on 13/10/2012
I told ya . . . . ha ha I could feel it coming . . . "It is just a case of rearranging things to achieve the right level." Absolutely not, my friend. I may be a novice but I know you do NOT load the rear of the caravan to achieve an acceptable noseweight. No way. With the ups and downs of the road surfaces, the N.W. will vary anyway; The stated noseweight includes a considerable allowance for load in the car, otherwise it would be a nonsense, so to up it slightly supposing gross weight is well down, shouldn`t be such a big deal.. As far as breaking the law is concerned, I `m not sure if you`re correct in this. But you might be . . . !
Excuse me but could you please point out where I have suggested loading the rear of the caravan? After 20 years of towing i am very aware of what is acceptable and what is not. Despite your disparaging remarks it IS only a question of rearranging things to get the correct noseweight. Placing heavy items just behind the axle is very acceptable since it places them in the centre if the van near to the centre of gravity, removing things from the van and putting them in the car is also to do with rearranging the load and items removed from in front of the axle will reduce the noseweight.
If you are not aware of the limits placed on you by the weights plated on the car and the consequences of exceeding them you should be, and the noseweight limit on a car that is less than 15 years old must be plated on the towbar. If you are not aware of this it makes me wonder how qualified you are to comment on this topic at all. To make things absolutely clear items loaded into the car are carried in the individual axle loads for the car, and these axle loads are also plated on the car, they have no bearing at all on the noseweight on the towbar. The plated noseweight is a static measure of the actual downward force that is acting directly on the towball and its mounting and this has also to be allowed for in the loading of the car as it will alter the actual axle loadingd. It is set to allow for the dynamic differences which driving along will make, any attempt to measure the dynamic values accurately would be difficult to say the least.
I would suggest that you as a novice listen very carefully to the advice given by people who have experience, I know I did and what is more I still do. We never ever stop learning.
------------- Bill
For a licence dated 1997 or later you must add together the plated max weight of the caravan and trailer, if the total is 3500 or less you can tow it. You may even tow a caravan with a MAM greater than the cars unladen mass the restriction was removed in 2013
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