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What are the figures on the plate on the car, these are the ones that are definitive.  The top one is the Maximum gross weight, the second one is the maximum train weight, the third one the front axle maximum load and the fourth one the rear axle maximum load.

So with a 1999 licence you need to add the maximum gross weight from the plate of the car to the maximum technical permitted mass on the caravan plate and if the sum is less than 3500kg you have a good start, then you need the unladen mass of the car ( you should find this figure on the cars V5 document where it is described as mass in service). you need the caravans maximum weight to be less than the cars unladen mass.  Providing these two conditions are met then tou have a licence to drive that combination.

Now look at the plate again and take note of the maximu train weight you must at all times keep the sum of the actual weights of the car and the caravan less than this figure. Your towbar will also have a plate on it that gives the maximu m  noseweight, you must not exceed this figure.  Now go out and have a good time, other limits in other places ie the cars handbook are just advisary figures and have no compulsory basis in the road traffic acts and other similar legislation.

Quote: Originally posted by tetchy100 on 04/11/2012

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Yes thats the figures it gives on the log book, add a 150kg ballast according to what tow car! The car is a 2007 (57) registration Mitsubishi Outlander, according to what tow car i can tow more then 1430kg as i checked the bailey senator virginia that we recently hired had a mtplm of 1492 and gave us an 84% match

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Ok so I started out confused now im really confused, the plate on my car says 2360kg, 4460kg, 1-1090, 2-1280kg my logbook states my mpm as 2070 and my mas in service as 1765, so i asume i should use the figure of 1765 as my maximum weight of the caravan i should be towing but ideally be 85% of that figure, so whats the figures of 2070 on my log book and 2360 on the plate and which 1 should i use as my fully laden weights to keep me right, i think im going to have to do the B+E test to be honest because im going to be cutting it fine to be under 3500kg especially when you start adding bike racks and the amout of stuff we take on holiday with us :(

thanks for the replies.

yes ive just spoken to the hire place and he admited his wife had made the mistake in letting us take the van because she had misinterperated the B+E in the provisional section of the counterpart thinking that I had the B+E on my licence so after ive passed the B+E what is the maximum i can tow with my car?

Quote: Originally posted by tetchy100 on 05/11/2012

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thanks for the replies.

yes ive just spoken to the hire place and he admited his wife had made the mistake in letting us take the van because she had misinterperated the B+E in the provisional section of the counterpart thinking that I had the B+E on my licence so after ive passed the B+E what is the maximum i can tow with my car?

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Quote: Originally posted by tetchy100 on 05/11/2012

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Ok so I started out confused now im really confused, the plate on my car says 2360kg, 4460kg, 1-1090, 2-1280kg my logbook states my mpm as 2070 and my mas in service as 1765, so i asume i should use the figure of 1765 as my maximum weight of the caravan i should be towing but ideally be 85% of that figure, so whats the figures of 2070 on my log book and 2360 on the plate and which 1 should i use as my fully laden weights to keep me right, i think im going to have to do the B+E test to be honest because im going to be cutting it fine to be under 3500kg especially when you start adding bike racks and the amout of stuff we take on holiday with us :(

 

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