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Subject Topic: re passat 105 estate or 170 Post Reply Post New Topic
25/11/2012 at 12:40pm
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hi does anyone own a 105 bhp passat estate,
what are they like to tow with and have you had any problems with the car.

i used to own the 140 bhp model, my sister is looking for an estate to tow with and she has seen a 2007 105 bhp model estate.

i remember reading that these dont suffer the fuel injector or the oil pump problems that the 140 bhp model suffers from.

is the 170 based on the 140 and has anyone had a 105 chipped


25/11/2012 at 3:34pm
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Depends on what she will tow with it?


Increasing the power on my 130bhp diesel mondeo to around 150bhp actually improved the fuel consumption when towing.

Last trip out i got high 30's. 39mpg going there and 36mpg coming back.
Previously my best was 34mpg with 31 being the average.



25/11/2012 at 5:13pm
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hi, its a 2 berth caravan, i realise the car isnt the heaviest


25/11/2012 at 7:15pm
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2 berth means nothing. You can get 4 berth caravan under 850kg gross laden weight and a 2 berth that weighs close to 2 tons.

Its the weight thats important.



26/11/2012 at 10:47am
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hi, thanks for your input but you are missing the point, I know the weight of their caravan and i know that the weight of the passat and I know that the caravan is within 85% of the weight of the car.

I can get advice on the cars kerbweight via the caravan club website matching service.

The reason for the post is to ask other owners of the 105 bhp model whether their cars have suffered the same mechanical problems as the 140 bhp model. Such as injector problems and even worse oil pump failure.





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26/11/2012 at 4:32pm
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Missing the point of is the 105bhp model a good towcar??


But that depends on what the caravan weighs...


Caravans 600kg   Brilliant.

Caravans 1000kg OK

Caravans 1300kg.. When will this hill end, I have run out of gears to change down to....



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Quote: Originally posted by jeepster1961 on 26/11/2012
hi, thanks for your input but you are missing the point, I know the weight of their caravan and i know that the weight of the passat and I know that the caravan is within 85% of the weight of the car.

I can get advice on the cars kerbweight via the caravan club website matching service.

The reason for the post is to ask other owners of the 105 bhp model whether their cars have suffered the same mechanical problems as the 140 bhp model. Such as injector problems and even worse oil pump failure.







The 105bhp engine is based on the old unit from the B5, and doesn't have the injector and oil pump problems.
The oil pump problems only happened on a batch of cars (mostly 2006) with the 140PD engines (down to a faulty bought in component), the injectors have now been retrospectively covered by VW agreeing to foot the bill (only after a massive amount of bad publicity).

Seems the 170 is the one to go for, although the CR engines are much nicer but may be out of your price range.
I had the 140PD Sport Estate, which was a fine thing to tow with, but I had the oil pump go, the cam belt tensioner fail the day after belt was changed (another quite common problem due to bad design) and after two engine rebuilds in 72000 miles, endless rattles, squeaks and a handbrake which worked less than a French air traffic controller I was thrilled to see the back of it.

The 105 model isn't the nicest engine in the world, but it is economical and pretty much bullet proof. You can pick them up cheaply, and if you want a bit more go then get it remapped.



27/11/2012 at 2:09am
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The 105 bhp is bullet proof, just change the oil every 10K, the only thing that may go but they are cheap enough to replace, is the EGR valve, and if the DMF goes, you can get a single clutch system fitted for a quarter of the cost of a new DMF, mine cost me £350 fitted

I have the same engine in my skoda and have covered 220,000 miles so far and have only changed 1 egr valve.

They love the cheaper Asda diesel

They are insurance group 6 for the 105 and 13 for the 170

RFL 120 py

FC from 48 upwards best was 68 mpg



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27/11/2012 at 8:58am
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hi thanks for the input, I have advised her to go for an older b5 model, the 130bhp estate version but she prefers the newer model, however it does seem a lot lighter than both the 140 bhp model and the 170 bhp model.

i had a 55 reg 140 passat, i kept it for 3 years, it was a lovely car, i had no issues with the handbrake but did have problems with fuel pump, injectors and injector wiring loom. the oil pump failure problem sounds very scarey.





27/11/2012 at 9:00am
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if it wasnt for the oil pump problems i would a advise her to go for a 140se estate,


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28/11/2012 at 1:44pm
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Hi Jeepster,

I had the exact opposite experience to you. I kept a 2007 Passat 140bhp for 4 years from new and 120,000 miles, and I had no problems at all with the engine, and 1 small problem with the handbrake switch needing replacing.  Excellent cars IMHO.



30/11/2012 at 10:38pm
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Hi Jeepster,

have a little read through this thread, some good information and advise here including my thoughts on Passat ownership.

http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/chatter/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=20&TopicID=285578&PagePosition=2

By the way, the towing limit for the B5 and B5.5 is 1600kgs. The B6 (the one with most problems) is 1800kgs tow limit.



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