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Subject Topic: will ldv tow my bailey asap Post Reply Post New Topic
01/2/2013 at 9:04am
 Location: scotland
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hi looking at a wee van

ldv maxus 2.5t 95 swb

will this tow my bailey pageant series 5 bordeaux

looking for quick reply thanks



01/2/2013 at 10:37am
 Location: Dorset
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Would not have thought it a problem as long as it hasn't been thrashed. LDV's were not the best vans around and tend to be a bit lower geared.

Is it a van or a minibus. Would not be a great combo if a minibus once loaded but adequate enough (if you know what I mean). You won't be 1st to the top of the hill.

 



01/2/2013 at 10:57am
 Location: Royal Forest of Dean
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What is the gross train weight of the van? What is the kerbweight of the van? What is the mtplm of the caravan? If we have these details we will be able to give better advice.

Rob


01/2/2013 at 1:12pm
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Just a note

If its a panel van some sites will class it a commercial vehicle and will not allow you on site with it, if its a minibus (ie more than an 8 seater) you should have a MIDAS certificate( Competency test for driving a minibus up to 3.5 tonnes)



01/2/2013 at 1:12pm
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Just a note

If its a panel van some sites will class it a commercial vehicle and will not allow you on site with it, if its a minibus (ie more than an 8 seater) you should have a MIDAS certificate( Competency test for driving a minibus up to 3.5 tonnes)



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01/2/2013 at 1:31pm
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Is the MIDAS Certificate only for 'hire or reward' minibus driving? If so, if PLG would not be required.

Also, per 1997 licence holders I thought were exempt from this.



01/2/2013 at 2:18pm
 Location: scotland
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mass running order 1150kg

laden mass 1366kg this is caravan

the van is 2007 ldv maxus 2.5 cdi 95 bhp short wheel base

payload 1074

kerb 1726

tow limit 2000

vehicle weight 2800

thanks



01/2/2013 at 2:19pm
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sorry meant to say it is a van but we are going to put rear windows in

we have been driving 20 years



01/2/2013 at 4:01pm
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Ideally, for stable towing your caravan when fully loaded should be 85% of the towing vehicle's kerb weight.
Based on the kerb weight given of 1726kg, you could happily tow 1460kg so your caravan being 1366kg would indicate a good match.

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01/2/2013 at 4:01pm
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Just make sure you ask the sites when booking. Even adding windows they may class it as a van or commercial and not allow it.

Only takes a few seconds to ask. Better than getting turned away with nowhere else to go except home.



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01/2/2013 at 4:49pm
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thanks for that

so you think it will be powerful enough as it cdi not turbo and 95 bhp

all advice greatly appreciated thanks



01/2/2013 at 9:00pm
 Location: Lowestoft Suffolk
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Quote: Originally posted by adcdjd on 01/2/2013

.....so you think it will be powerful enough as it cdi not turbo and 95 bhp

all advice greatly appreciated thanks





There is a little utilised rule of thumb that says that you need a minimum of 40hp per tonne just to keep going.

So, applying this to you your figures;
LDV Kerb weight of 1725kg + hypothetically a payload of 500kg = 2225kg

Now add 'van at say, 1350kg: This gives a total 'train weight' of 3575kg.

Applying 40hp per tonne rule (40 x 3.575) suggests a minimum hp requirement of 143hp.

On this basis, if max 95hp is available, suggestive that power well below what you need.




01/2/2013 at 9:32pm
 Location: Blackburn Lancashire
 Outfit: Coachman Laser 650 and Discovery
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I agree, it's grossly underpowered. You might be OK but it will be hard work wherever you go, and you will wear the van out at an alarming rate.

You need at least half as much power again, on top of what you have.

Jim


01/2/2013 at 11:41pm
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Is the MiDAS Certificate only for 'hire or reward' minibus driving? If so, if PLG would not be required.

MiDAS certificate is required when not driving for hire or reward, Must have part D1 on licence to drive for hire or reward and can only drive minibuses up to 3.5 tonnes MAM (4.25 tonnes if wheelchair accessible)




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